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<blockquote data-quote="Viandante" data-source="post: 5144228" data-attributes="member: 88225"><p>Finally I have time to reply properly!</p><p>I hate all these holidays, I always have to go visit people I don't really care about just because they're family.</p><p></p><p>About the flaw: I didn't really have a choice. We can't pick flaws, we just roll a couple of times and see what happens. Then we have to choose between the two random results, or choose to not take the flaw at all.</p><p></p><p>I got Noncombatant (-2 on all melee attack rolls) and Vulnerable (-1 to AC) as random flaws, and I chose Vulnerable because I don't think that a two-weapons fighting gnome that also gets a -2 on melee rolls would work.</p><p>I thought about not taking a flaw, but the extra feat was worth it in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>I'm now playing, and we are slaves fighting for some drow city's amusement...and I assure you that the Titan Fighting feat really helped out there!</p><p></p><p>I'm currently level three (Rogue 1 / Swashbuckler 2) and I got those feats:</p><p></p><p>TWF (first level feat)</p><p>Dodge (flaw)</p><p>Weapon Finesse (swashbucler's gift for all rogues)</p><p>Titan Fighting (third level feat)</p><p></p><p>I'm thinking about getting the feats in this order:</p><p></p><p><strong>Level</strong>:</p><p>5. Craven (5th level feat), <strong>MISSING ROGUE FEAT</strong></p><p>7. Darkstalker (7th level feat), Fast Stealth* (Rogue Feat)</p><p>9. Staggering Strike (9th level feat), Improved TWF (Combat Trick rogue feat), Acrobatic Backstab (Skill Trick)</p><p>10. Back On Your Feet (Skill Trick)</p><p>11. <strong>MISSING 11TH FEAT</strong>, <strong>MISSING ROGUE FEAT</strong></p><p>13. Savvy Rogue (13rd level feat), Opportunist (rogue feat)</p><p>15. <strong>MISSING 15TH LEVEL FEAT</strong>, Crippling Strike (Rogue Feat)</p><p></p><p><em>*Fast stealth makes me move at full speed while hiding.</em></p><p></p><p>I don't plan on getting Darkstalker on early levels as my DM announced to us he's going to make us fight there for a long time, so I won't really need that.</p><p>Is there a feat that lets me use bigger weapons? Using small short swords just isn't great at all...</p><p>What do you suggest I should take, if not Weapon Focus and Improved Initiative?</p><p>Remember I can get fighters feat and weapon focus as rogue feats.</p><p></p><p>I was thinking about going the Minor Magic / Major Magic route, but I don't know.</p><p></p><p>Minor Magic makes me choose a 0-level wizard / sorcerer spell to cast three times per day as a spell-like ability.</p><p>Major Magic is similar: I can choose a 1st-level spell and I could cast it two times per day...and it requires Minor Magic first.</p><p>Useful, but I think it's just a waste spending two feat for a 0-level spell and a 1-level spell. Unless there's a really, really useful spell I'd want to absolutely learn.</p><p>I also already have some spells I can use (Message, Silence, Ghost Sound and Mage Hand) for being a Whisper Gnome.</p><p></p><p>I was also thinking about getting proficencies in the Bladed Gauntlet (Sword and Fist), which is small, light, uses a d6 for damage and has a critical range of 17-20x2 (if my DM doesn't take the errata that makes it go 19-20x2 into account, of course).</p><p>If he doesn't take the errata into account, I could even pursue the improved critical / telling blow route.</p><p></p><p>If he takes it into account, well, I think I could get them as well just because they are stilysh and have a good damage dice XD</p><p></p><p></p><p>Let me know what you think, even on flaws! ^^</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Viandante, post: 5144228, member: 88225"] Finally I have time to reply properly! I hate all these holidays, I always have to go visit people I don't really care about just because they're family. About the flaw: I didn't really have a choice. We can't pick flaws, we just roll a couple of times and see what happens. Then we have to choose between the two random results, or choose to not take the flaw at all. I got Noncombatant (-2 on all melee attack rolls) and Vulnerable (-1 to AC) as random flaws, and I chose Vulnerable because I don't think that a two-weapons fighting gnome that also gets a -2 on melee rolls would work. I thought about not taking a flaw, but the extra feat was worth it in my opinion. I'm now playing, and we are slaves fighting for some drow city's amusement...and I assure you that the Titan Fighting feat really helped out there! I'm currently level three (Rogue 1 / Swashbuckler 2) and I got those feats: TWF (first level feat) Dodge (flaw) Weapon Finesse (swashbucler's gift for all rogues) Titan Fighting (third level feat) I'm thinking about getting the feats in this order: [B]Level[/B]: 5. Craven (5th level feat), [B]MISSING ROGUE FEAT[/B] 7. Darkstalker (7th level feat), Fast Stealth* (Rogue Feat) 9. Staggering Strike (9th level feat), Improved TWF (Combat Trick rogue feat), Acrobatic Backstab (Skill Trick) 10. Back On Your Feet (Skill Trick) 11. [B]MISSING 11TH FEAT[/B], [B]MISSING ROGUE FEAT[/B] 13. Savvy Rogue (13rd level feat), Opportunist (rogue feat) 15. [B]MISSING 15TH LEVEL FEAT[/B], Crippling Strike (Rogue Feat) [I]*Fast stealth makes me move at full speed while hiding.[/I] I don't plan on getting Darkstalker on early levels as my DM announced to us he's going to make us fight there for a long time, so I won't really need that. Is there a feat that lets me use bigger weapons? Using small short swords just isn't great at all... What do you suggest I should take, if not Weapon Focus and Improved Initiative? Remember I can get fighters feat and weapon focus as rogue feats. I was thinking about going the Minor Magic / Major Magic route, but I don't know. Minor Magic makes me choose a 0-level wizard / sorcerer spell to cast three times per day as a spell-like ability. Major Magic is similar: I can choose a 1st-level spell and I could cast it two times per day...and it requires Minor Magic first. Useful, but I think it's just a waste spending two feat for a 0-level spell and a 1-level spell. Unless there's a really, really useful spell I'd want to absolutely learn. I also already have some spells I can use (Message, Silence, Ghost Sound and Mage Hand) for being a Whisper Gnome. I was also thinking about getting proficencies in the Bladed Gauntlet (Sword and Fist), which is small, light, uses a d6 for damage and has a critical range of 17-20x2 (if my DM doesn't take the errata that makes it go 19-20x2 into account, of course). If he doesn't take the errata into account, I could even pursue the improved critical / telling blow route. If he takes it into account, well, I think I could get them as well just because they are stilysh and have a good damage dice XD Let me know what you think, even on flaws! ^^ [/QUOTE]
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