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3.5: newb needs a little help with Hellfire Warlock build
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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 5491927" data-attributes="member: 892"><p>Wait. I can see three possible interpretations here, but one doesn't make sense to me:</p><p></p><p>a) the vitriolic hellfire blast means xd6 acid stuff (based on the warlock class) and 2-6d6 hellfire stuff (only the added 2 to 6d6 being hellfire, and thus it being subject to sr but not the acid stuff. This would make it a little like a cleric's flame strike.</p><p></p><p>b) the hellfire blast "changes the eldritch blast" and that means it changes the virtriolic blast to hellfire (or any other essence) all the way through, but that means the vitriolic part is lost, so no auto-SR penetration.</p><p></p><p>c) The vitriolic hellfire blast is 100% acid and 100% hellfire at the same time, all the way through. Full damage, full SR penetration. Very Happy Warock. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>That last option doesn't make sense to me. That's like having an attack that is vitriolic and brimstone at the same time, all the way through. I could see something that transforms some of an essence type of damage into something else, or something that transforms all of an essence type of damage and something else, but not something that keeps its essence type while also being something else all the way through.</p><p></p><p>My interpretation of the rules is that hellfire blast acts to change the eldritch blast, and if it changes, then it loses any other eldritch essence it would have in order to become hellfire.</p><p></p><p>I favour interpretation b as the correct one.</p><p></p><p>Mind you if there is a feat somewhere that would let a warlock have two essences at the same time, I would allow a warlock with that feat to also have hellfire at the same time as another essence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 5491927, member: 892"] Wait. I can see three possible interpretations here, but one doesn't make sense to me: a) the vitriolic hellfire blast means xd6 acid stuff (based on the warlock class) and 2-6d6 hellfire stuff (only the added 2 to 6d6 being hellfire, and thus it being subject to sr but not the acid stuff. This would make it a little like a cleric's flame strike. b) the hellfire blast "changes the eldritch blast" and that means it changes the virtriolic blast to hellfire (or any other essence) all the way through, but that means the vitriolic part is lost, so no auto-SR penetration. c) The vitriolic hellfire blast is 100% acid and 100% hellfire at the same time, all the way through. Full damage, full SR penetration. Very Happy Warock. :) That last option doesn't make sense to me. That's like having an attack that is vitriolic and brimstone at the same time, all the way through. I could see something that transforms some of an essence type of damage into something else, or something that transforms all of an essence type of damage and something else, but not something that keeps its essence type while also being something else all the way through. My interpretation of the rules is that hellfire blast acts to change the eldritch blast, and if it changes, then it loses any other eldritch essence it would have in order to become hellfire. I favour interpretation b as the correct one. Mind you if there is a feat somewhere that would let a warlock have two essences at the same time, I would allow a warlock with that feat to also have hellfire at the same time as another essence. [/QUOTE]
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