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<blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 5176520" data-attributes="member: 85158"><p>Such as the rest of your party?</p><p></p><p>Concealment is not bad, however, you have to compare the invocations with others and see how good it is relative to your other options. Thinblade did not find it to be better than invocations such as Spider Climb (mobility, immunity to Webs), Entropic Warding (miss chance against ranged attacks, immunity to tracking), and See the Unseen (Darkvision and See Invisibility).</p><p></p><p>The problem with the Darkness + Devil's Sight combination is that you select two relatively weak invocations to use together. This is inferior to selecting two invocations that are strong on their own to use together.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, did you know that Bull Rushing someone in concealment works just fine because it requires no attack roll?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dandu, post: 5176520, member: 85158"] Such as the rest of your party? Concealment is not bad, however, you have to compare the invocations with others and see how good it is relative to your other options. Thinblade did not find it to be better than invocations such as Spider Climb (mobility, immunity to Webs), Entropic Warding (miss chance against ranged attacks, immunity to tracking), and See the Unseen (Darkvision and See Invisibility). The problem with the Darkness + Devil's Sight combination is that you select two relatively weak invocations to use together. This is inferior to selecting two invocations that are strong on their own to use together. Incidentally, did you know that Bull Rushing someone in concealment works just fine because it requires no attack roll? [/QUOTE]
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