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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 5960319" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>Fair enough, but I'm not sure if this forum is the right place to gauge overall interest. Something on the Paizo forums, for example, would probably get more responses from potential buyers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, you've always got me. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The differences are a great number of small tweaks; virtually everything is different in some small way. The place to get started is probably the <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/v5748btpy89m6" target="_blank">Pathfinder Conversion Guide</a>, though it's aimed at PCs more than monsters.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True, but then if you knew everything about Pathfinder, you wouldn't need advice regarding the conversion. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That would most likely work. There'd need to be a tiny bit of mechanical finagling - probably a new subtype just for them, with a few tweaks - but it could be made to work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Given that a standard <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/crocodile.html#_crocodile-dire" target="_blank">dire crocodile</a> in Pathfinder is CR 9, that seems close enough (particularly since Pathfinder does seem to have upped the power-level slightly across the board).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm familiar with the rationale, and it probably does work best your way. Having said that, Challenge Ratings are more of a scientific art than an artistic science - it was your original breakdown that showed us that. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With the advent of its first 4E book, I think that ship has sailed. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /></p><p></p><p>Slightly more seriously though, most 3.X players have moved on to Pathfinder. I'm concerned that if a Pathfinder book is made, a separate 3.X book simply isn't worth the effort it'd take to give the few 3.X holdouts their own version.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A book like this is going to be a niche product. The people who hear about, a buy, PDF products (with POD options) are the hardcore fans who go to forums and websites where such things are announced.</p><p></p><p>These same fans are the ones who know the game so well that they're familiar with its intricacies; hence, they'll spot a deviation from the normal course of the rules and, barring some sort of explanation, assume it's an error. Even with an explanation, they may not necessarily agree with a change was made if its radical enough.</p><p></p><p>Even if this isn't true for some hardcore fans, it's likely to be for the reviewers, who'll characterize the change as above, and who'll help to shape the potential buyers' opinions. If a name you trust is saying that the book makes some basic mistakes with things like Hit Dice, it can impact people's purchase intent.</p><p></p><p>So in other words...yeah.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 5960319, member: 8461"] Fair enough, but I'm not sure if this forum is the right place to gauge overall interest. Something on the Paizo forums, for example, would probably get more responses from potential buyers. Well, you've always got me. ;) The differences are a great number of small tweaks; virtually everything is different in some small way. The place to get started is probably the [url=http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/v5748btpy89m6]Pathfinder Conversion Guide[/url], though it's aimed at PCs more than monsters. True, but then if you knew everything about Pathfinder, you wouldn't need advice regarding the conversion. :p That would most likely work. There'd need to be a tiny bit of mechanical finagling - probably a new subtype just for them, with a few tweaks - but it could be made to work. Given that a standard [url=http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/crocodile.html#_crocodile-dire]dire crocodile[/url] in Pathfinder is CR 9, that seems close enough (particularly since Pathfinder does seem to have upped the power-level slightly across the board). I'm familiar with the rationale, and it probably does work best your way. Having said that, Challenge Ratings are more of a scientific art than an artistic science - it was your original breakdown that showed us that. ;) With the advent of its first 4E book, I think that ship has sailed. :] Slightly more seriously though, most 3.X players have moved on to Pathfinder. I'm concerned that if a Pathfinder book is made, a separate 3.X book simply isn't worth the effort it'd take to give the few 3.X holdouts their own version. A book like this is going to be a niche product. The people who hear about, a buy, PDF products (with POD options) are the hardcore fans who go to forums and websites where such things are announced. These same fans are the ones who know the game so well that they're familiar with its intricacies; hence, they'll spot a deviation from the normal course of the rules and, barring some sort of explanation, assume it's an error. Even with an explanation, they may not necessarily agree with a change was made if its radical enough. Even if this isn't true for some hardcore fans, it's likely to be for the reviewers, who'll characterize the change as above, and who'll help to shape the potential buyers' opinions. If a name you trust is saying that the book makes some basic mistakes with things like Hit Dice, it can impact people's purchase intent. So in other words...yeah. [/QUOTE]
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