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<blockquote data-quote="malkav666" data-source="post: 4942508" data-attributes="member: 70565"><p>When my group was playtesting 4e we used zero 3pp product. This mainly had to do with the DDI sub we were sharing at the time and the character builder being the preferred method to make toons. But I think some of the very gamist design of 4e and the wording of the GSL (at lest the orginal one) may be prohibitive to the kind support that 3e saw. From what I am seeing from the 4e folks I am reading from online is this is not an issue for many of their core audience.</p><p></p><p>In 3.x I bought a LOT of 3pp stuff. Not so much right in the beginning. But about midway through the edition I picked up the pace as the flavor of the 3pp stuff was usually better. The rules were not always spot on, but I cannot think of a single 3pp product that had an option that just could never be allowed to live. Some of them (many of them in fact) had to have minor adjustments to fit into the game I would be running. But making those adjustments is part of what I really enjoy as a storyteller/DM.</p><p></p><p>My groups have gone on to Pathfinder. And the level of 3pp support in my groups is the same if not better. I play with the PF groups and have seen no less than 4 copies of the Tome of Secrets that GM mentioned (one of them being my own personal copy). I hear rumblings from on the of the players in my group about running the newest N. Logue lessen in punishment and evil in the spring when the flowers start to bloom. I have seen some 3pp spell cards at one table (not sure who made them, but they looked good and there is interest I will ask the player about it).</p><p></p><p>I can safely say that unless money is prohibitive or Paizo does something to lose some of the folks I group with as players as customers and they want to play something else (in which case I will ablidge them, as the game has never been as important as the time spent with friends to me), that these groups will continue to make 3pp purchases. I know I will buy 3pp stuff if it looks like a product I would be interested in.</p><p></p><p>love,</p><p></p><p>malkav</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="malkav666, post: 4942508, member: 70565"] When my group was playtesting 4e we used zero 3pp product. This mainly had to do with the DDI sub we were sharing at the time and the character builder being the preferred method to make toons. But I think some of the very gamist design of 4e and the wording of the GSL (at lest the orginal one) may be prohibitive to the kind support that 3e saw. From what I am seeing from the 4e folks I am reading from online is this is not an issue for many of their core audience. In 3.x I bought a LOT of 3pp stuff. Not so much right in the beginning. But about midway through the edition I picked up the pace as the flavor of the 3pp stuff was usually better. The rules were not always spot on, but I cannot think of a single 3pp product that had an option that just could never be allowed to live. Some of them (many of them in fact) had to have minor adjustments to fit into the game I would be running. But making those adjustments is part of what I really enjoy as a storyteller/DM. My groups have gone on to Pathfinder. And the level of 3pp support in my groups is the same if not better. I play with the PF groups and have seen no less than 4 copies of the Tome of Secrets that GM mentioned (one of them being my own personal copy). I hear rumblings from on the of the players in my group about running the newest N. Logue lessen in punishment and evil in the spring when the flowers start to bloom. I have seen some 3pp spell cards at one table (not sure who made them, but they looked good and there is interest I will ask the player about it). I can safely say that unless money is prohibitive or Paizo does something to lose some of the folks I group with as players as customers and they want to play something else (in which case I will ablidge them, as the game has never been as important as the time spent with friends to me), that these groups will continue to make 3pp purchases. I know I will buy 3pp stuff if it looks like a product I would be interested in. love, malkav [/QUOTE]
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