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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7647931" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I'd say though that is somewhat optimistic. For one thing DDI still requires production costs, Dungeon and Dragon aren't free. There are also some costs associated with running ANY sort of online service, and DDI's tools require some amount of maintenance just to keep up with the stuff that gets put out in the magazines. So 4.2 million in gross revenue from an online service like that might only translate into say 2 million net cash. You might have to sell 8 million worth of hardcover books to equal that, but clearly that still doesn't put you in the big leagues. </p><p></p><p>The thing with online services is that they scale really well, unlike publishing where the costs of printing, distribution, and sales are MUCH more linear. A DDI that costs say 2.5 million to run for 50k users would cost some trivial amount more to run for 100k users. You barely need any additional staff, your IT guys can run 20 servers as easily as 10 these days, and the costs of hardware and bandwidth are relatively modest costs. Thus someone saying "I can make 300k a month paying user web service" was promising a LOT more than what a 50k user web service is worth. Heck, the number of web services with 300k paying users IN THE WORLD is a 2-digit number. They were promising basically the Moon, made of platinum no less.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 7647931, member: 82106"] I'd say though that is somewhat optimistic. For one thing DDI still requires production costs, Dungeon and Dragon aren't free. There are also some costs associated with running ANY sort of online service, and DDI's tools require some amount of maintenance just to keep up with the stuff that gets put out in the magazines. So 4.2 million in gross revenue from an online service like that might only translate into say 2 million net cash. You might have to sell 8 million worth of hardcover books to equal that, but clearly that still doesn't put you in the big leagues. The thing with online services is that they scale really well, unlike publishing where the costs of printing, distribution, and sales are MUCH more linear. A DDI that costs say 2.5 million to run for 50k users would cost some trivial amount more to run for 100k users. You barely need any additional staff, your IT guys can run 20 servers as easily as 10 these days, and the costs of hardware and bandwidth are relatively modest costs. Thus someone saying "I can make 300k a month paying user web service" was promising a LOT more than what a 50k user web service is worth. Heck, the number of web services with 300k paying users IN THE WORLD is a 2-digit number. They were promising basically the Moon, made of platinum no less. [/QUOTE]
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