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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 5567485" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>I have to say I agree with a lot of what Ryan says. If I were introducing a brand new group of people to role-playing, I would NOT NOT NOT use 3E or Pathfinder, or really even 4e, though that wouldn't be as bad.</p><p></p><p>I would go with Basic D&D, (or Labyrinth Lord as it's now known) or Castles and Crusades. I would not give people more than 15 things to keep track of, and the six ability scores, their AC, attack and damage dice, and (MAYBE) saving throws is about it - and even then, I'd use Fort, reflex and will instead of the classic saves, and I'd keep it to a simple "by level" chart with no bonuses.</p><p></p><p>For newbies, there's just too much to decipher, as a general rule.</p><p></p><p>Now, for the established group, I'd say we love complexity. Everyone who delves deeply into a hobby loves to push up the challenge level by planning and stretegy - Ryan, didn't you say that DIR divers have discussions of almost Talmudic detail? Having no experience with Judaism, but getting a few glimpses from Potok's The Chosen, I can see where people who love a subject enjoy digging into it far more than a novice would. Not everyone needs to love Strat-o-Matic baseball to enjoy a ball game - but chances are a big time fan who loves diving into player and team averages will grab on to Strat-o-Matic with gusto.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 5567485, member: 158"] I have to say I agree with a lot of what Ryan says. If I were introducing a brand new group of people to role-playing, I would NOT NOT NOT use 3E or Pathfinder, or really even 4e, though that wouldn't be as bad. I would go with Basic D&D, (or Labyrinth Lord as it's now known) or Castles and Crusades. I would not give people more than 15 things to keep track of, and the six ability scores, their AC, attack and damage dice, and (MAYBE) saving throws is about it - and even then, I'd use Fort, reflex and will instead of the classic saves, and I'd keep it to a simple "by level" chart with no bonuses. For newbies, there's just too much to decipher, as a general rule. Now, for the established group, I'd say we love complexity. Everyone who delves deeply into a hobby loves to push up the challenge level by planning and stretegy - Ryan, didn't you say that DIR divers have discussions of almost Talmudic detail? Having no experience with Judaism, but getting a few glimpses from Potok's The Chosen, I can see where people who love a subject enjoy digging into it far more than a novice would. Not everyone needs to love Strat-o-Matic baseball to enjoy a ball game - but chances are a big time fan who loves diving into player and team averages will grab on to Strat-o-Matic with gusto. [/QUOTE]
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