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4e/13thA immersion question and 5e/13thA DoaM question
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<blockquote data-quote="Dragonblade" data-source="post: 6266261" data-attributes="member: 2804"><p>I wouldn't say "mass" of hate. I think the loudness of the detractors outweighs their numbers, especially on EN World which has always skewed heavily against 4e. Personally, I feel indicting 5e over the inclusion or exclusion of DoaM to be somewhat asinine, but that's me.</p><p></p><p>Thankfully, 13th Age doesn't have the problem 5e does of trying to be everything to everyone because it doesn't carry the D&D name with all its baggage. It embraces the fact that its a game, and doesn't try to pretend to be some kind of fantasy world simulation. Its focused on trying to deliver a very specific gaming experience and its not afraid to use mechanics like Recoveries, or DoaM to deliver that experience.</p><p></p><p>I suspect that hardcore simulationists and some simulation-minded OSR folks won't touch 13th Age with a ten foot pole (see what I did there?), although in my opinion, 13th Age epitomizes what the OSR movement is all about better than most retro clones. 13th Age is the ultimate in DIY "rulings not rules" freeform d20 fantasy, IMO.</p><p></p><p>The bottom line is you're unlikely to see a lot of hand wringing over 13th Age's unapologetic embrace of non-simulationist mechanics because the folks who get upset over those things probably wouldn't be playing 13th Age in the first place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragonblade, post: 6266261, member: 2804"] I wouldn't say "mass" of hate. I think the loudness of the detractors outweighs their numbers, especially on EN World which has always skewed heavily against 4e. Personally, I feel indicting 5e over the inclusion or exclusion of DoaM to be somewhat asinine, but that's me. Thankfully, 13th Age doesn't have the problem 5e does of trying to be everything to everyone because it doesn't carry the D&D name with all its baggage. It embraces the fact that its a game, and doesn't try to pretend to be some kind of fantasy world simulation. Its focused on trying to deliver a very specific gaming experience and its not afraid to use mechanics like Recoveries, or DoaM to deliver that experience. I suspect that hardcore simulationists and some simulation-minded OSR folks won't touch 13th Age with a ten foot pole (see what I did there?), although in my opinion, 13th Age epitomizes what the OSR movement is all about better than most retro clones. 13th Age is the ultimate in DIY "rulings not rules" freeform d20 fantasy, IMO. The bottom line is you're unlikely to see a lot of hand wringing over 13th Age's unapologetic embrace of non-simulationist mechanics because the folks who get upset over those things probably wouldn't be playing 13th Age in the first place. [/QUOTE]
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