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<blockquote data-quote="Ulthwithian" data-source="post: 4073415" data-attributes="member: 60612"><p>What, specifically, are you claiming as a fact, Mael? That ability scores are devalued? It would seem to me, from the article you use as your source (and others like it), that as most people here have said, it is not being devalued as 'shuffled'. Rogues are explicitly stating as caring about 3 scores in the article: Dex, Str, and Cha. Note the minimal benefit from Con that the class receives; this reinforces that fact.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you are claiming as fact that the 'generality' of ability scores are being de-emphasized, this is most likely true. However, is this a good move or a bad one? I know I for one am very glad that not all of my characters will need to have a 14+ Con to do what needs to be done in a game. One of the most 'memorable' (in mainly a bad way) characters I've ever seen was a Rogue/Sorcerer with a Con of 8. That simply doesn't work at all (especially when you try to focus on touch spells!) in 3.X, while there doesn't seem to be nearly the penalty associated with it in 4E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ulthwithian, post: 4073415, member: 60612"] What, specifically, are you claiming as a fact, Mael? That ability scores are devalued? It would seem to me, from the article you use as your source (and others like it), that as most people here have said, it is not being devalued as 'shuffled'. Rogues are explicitly stating as caring about 3 scores in the article: Dex, Str, and Cha. Note the minimal benefit from Con that the class receives; this reinforces that fact. Now, if you are claiming as fact that the 'generality' of ability scores are being de-emphasized, this is most likely true. However, is this a good move or a bad one? I know I for one am very glad that not all of my characters will need to have a 14+ Con to do what needs to be done in a game. One of the most 'memorable' (in mainly a bad way) characters I've ever seen was a Rogue/Sorcerer with a Con of 8. That simply doesn't work at all (especially when you try to focus on touch spells!) in 3.X, while there doesn't seem to be nearly the penalty associated with it in 4E. [/QUOTE]
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