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<blockquote data-quote="glass" data-source="post: 9000348" data-attributes="member: 12251"><p>(<strong>Bolding</strong> mine). Yes, if you exclude the things that make them different, then they are the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes it is. Apologies, for saying that you had ignored them; I could have sworn that line was not there when I first responded, but you post does not say it has been edited so I must have just missed it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I was. The reason I was not explicit in my first post was because it was a minor side issue and I did not want it to take over my post (which was mostly about other things) or the thread. <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">So that worked well!</span> Subsequently I did not think I needed to be more explicit because [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] already had. I was not being coy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I explicitly said that the the powers of each class were "broadly similar", just not identical. Yes, 4e absolutely had a "consistent power structure" as you put it, and some people disliked that. But a lot of people also dislike the imaginary version of 4e that only existed in their heads (and in edition-warrior talking points on the Internet), so even relatively small corrections have value IMHO. And personally, I do not think "consistent" vs "literally identical" is that small a distinction (if it was that small, there would be no reason for edition warriors to keep pretending it was the latter rather than the former).</p><p></p><p>I also, in the post you initially responded to, mentioned PHB3 which for some of its classes have no Encounter* powers at all, instead a pool of per-encounter points that augment their At Wills Which is a much bigger pre-Essentials difference and definitely not a nitpick.</p><p></p><p>Sorry again for misreading your initial post. But my broader point still stands.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">(* In the normal structure - I cannot be bothered to go an check if they get any from features).</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="glass, post: 9000348, member: 12251"] ([B]Bolding[/B] mine). Yes, if you exclude the things that make them different, then they are the same. Yes it is. Apologies, for saying that you had ignored them; I could have sworn that line was not there when I first responded, but you post does not say it has been edited so I must have just missed it. Yes, I was. The reason I was not explicit in my first post was because it was a minor side issue and I did not want it to take over my post (which was mostly about other things) or the thread. [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]So that worked well![/COLOR] Subsequently I did not think I needed to be more explicit because [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] already had. I was not being coy. I explicitly said that the the powers of each class were "broadly similar", just not identical. Yes, 4e absolutely had a "consistent power structure" as you put it, and some people disliked that. But a lot of people also dislike the imaginary version of 4e that only existed in their heads (and in edition-warrior talking points on the Internet), so even relatively small corrections have value IMHO. And personally, I do not think "consistent" vs "literally identical" is that small a distinction (if it was that small, there would be no reason for edition warriors to keep pretending it was the latter rather than the former). I also, in the post you initially responded to, mentioned PHB3 which for some of its classes have no Encounter* powers at all, instead a pool of per-encounter points that augment their At Wills Which is a much bigger pre-Essentials difference and definitely not a nitpick. Sorry again for misreading your initial post. But my broader point still stands. [SIZE=1](* In the normal structure - I cannot be bothered to go an check if they get any from features).[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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