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<blockquote data-quote="Tharivious" data-source="post: 4298247" data-attributes="member: 28105"><p>I've got the books too. Anyone that wants my opinion and knows me, can request a link to me personally, as my review is posted elsewhere (and would be a CoC violation to boot, because I loathe the result of the system just that much - it's childish and simplified to the point of no longer having any thought to it). That aside...</p><p></p><p>Dragonborn and Tieflings, as per 4E, are radically different from their earlier counterparts. Considering that either of them are still allowed in the Sigil area, I'd expect them to still be allowed there.</p><p></p><p>As Tyrian said, however:</p><p></p><p>... separate isn't the word I'd go with, though, but then the phrase I'd go with would be heavily censored and lose all of its meaning in the process, so we'll go with separate. WotC took the "People like to play monsters!!11" too far, and tried to make it normal in what should well be a more xenophobic setting than even Greyhawk (what with the whole Points of Light concept), and did it poorly by choosing the most cartoonishly awful images possible (especially when one considers that there are no more bronze dragons, which the dragonborn are modeled after, and that metallic dragons are no longer universally inclined to be good).</p><p></p><p>Worse yet, the 4E Tieflings are very much <strong>not</strong> disguise-friendly, with their absurdly large horns and third-leg of a tail, and Dragonborn aren't much better, since they're basically just lizardfolk with a dragon's head and no tail. So either one of those absurd races in the tavern? No... just... no.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tharivious, post: 4298247, member: 28105"] I've got the books too. Anyone that wants my opinion and knows me, can request a link to me personally, as my review is posted elsewhere (and would be a CoC violation to boot, because I loathe the result of the system just that much - it's childish and simplified to the point of no longer having any thought to it). That aside... Dragonborn and Tieflings, as per 4E, are radically different from their earlier counterparts. Considering that either of them are still allowed in the Sigil area, I'd expect them to still be allowed there. As Tyrian said, however: ... separate isn't the word I'd go with, though, but then the phrase I'd go with would be heavily censored and lose all of its meaning in the process, so we'll go with separate. WotC took the "People like to play monsters!!11" too far, and tried to make it normal in what should well be a more xenophobic setting than even Greyhawk (what with the whole Points of Light concept), and did it poorly by choosing the most cartoonishly awful images possible (especially when one considers that there are no more bronze dragons, which the dragonborn are modeled after, and that metallic dragons are no longer universally inclined to be good). Worse yet, the 4E Tieflings are very much [b]not[/b] disguise-friendly, with their absurdly large horns and third-leg of a tail, and Dragonborn aren't much better, since they're basically just lizardfolk with a dragon's head and no tail. So either one of those absurd races in the tavern? No... just... no. [/QUOTE]
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