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<blockquote data-quote="jontherev" data-source="post: 160706" data-attributes="member: 1451"><p><strong>not!</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Completely mistaken?<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /> Sounds like shurikens to me. The Sage has ruled that shurikens and spells that give multiple attacks (i.e. Acid Orb, Flame Arrow, etc.) only deal sneak attack damage on the first attack roll. I see absolutely no reason the crescent knife should be "special" and above this rule. It's for balance reasons obviously (see your smackdown above for proof) and if you email the Sage and ask him, I'll bet you a +5 Holy Vorpal Sword he'd tell you the same thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My numbers are more correct imo. And if you go back and read your surprise round, you said +7, not +5. Hence my correction of your mistake. However, you only need one weapon in the surprise round, so if you have quickdraw you could attack at +7 and draw the other weapon next round. Otherwise, you are TWF'ing and suffer the penalties.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>According to another poster, you have to use a katana to get the iaijutsu focus. Assuming he's right, that gives you an average damage for surprise of 30. That assumes you hit with all 4 attacks, which probably won't happen. Note, this is still amazing at 4th level.</p><p></p><p>In the first round, after winning initiative, you could make 6 attacks at +5 for around 45 average damage.</p><p></p><p>If you want a reason why your idea is unbalanced, consider a +1 Long Sword of Speed that costs 50000gp and only gives ONE extra attack per round. Your DM would be crazy, or not aware of the Sage ruling, to allow your smackdown as written.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jontherev, post: 160706, member: 1451"] [b]not![/b] [B][/b] Completely mistaken?:eek: Sounds like shurikens to me. The Sage has ruled that shurikens and spells that give multiple attacks (i.e. Acid Orb, Flame Arrow, etc.) only deal sneak attack damage on the first attack roll. I see absolutely no reason the crescent knife should be "special" and above this rule. It's for balance reasons obviously (see your smackdown above for proof) and if you email the Sage and ask him, I'll bet you a +5 Holy Vorpal Sword he'd tell you the same thing. [b][/b] My numbers are more correct imo. And if you go back and read your surprise round, you said +7, not +5. Hence my correction of your mistake. However, you only need one weapon in the surprise round, so if you have quickdraw you could attack at +7 and draw the other weapon next round. Otherwise, you are TWF'ing and suffer the penalties. According to another poster, you have to use a katana to get the iaijutsu focus. Assuming he's right, that gives you an average damage for surprise of 30. That assumes you hit with all 4 attacks, which probably won't happen. Note, this is still amazing at 4th level. In the first round, after winning initiative, you could make 6 attacks at +5 for around 45 average damage. If you want a reason why your idea is unbalanced, consider a +1 Long Sword of Speed that costs 50000gp and only gives ONE extra attack per round. Your DM would be crazy, or not aware of the Sage ruling, to allow your smackdown as written. [/QUOTE]
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