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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 6360362" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>I still don't think that's a big deal because the same argument can be made for the entire evocation school. Fireball potentially does WAY more damage than a fighter could do in one round; that's all there is to it. So 4 skeletons attacking someone should be compared to <em>fireball</em>, not fighter DPR. And it isn't even close to as good as fireball when it comes to damage.</p><p></p><p>It's not really a big deal until you get tons and tons of guys all at once; that is when the action economy thing starts to really unravel, because you're using the equivalent of 4 or 5 spell slots in one bonus action. THAT is crazy - the fact that 4 or 5 spell slots does more damage than a fighter is meaningless. I mean: <em>of course it does.</em></p><p></p><p>They even made Delayed Blast Fireball into a concentration spell - that's how important it is to conserve how many spells can go off at one time. But Animate Dead is an exception they missed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Side point: anything that resists or is immune to non-magical attacks pretty much throws the chart out the window, and fighters zoom WAY ahead with a single +1 magic weapon. Even if you manage to get up to a few dozen skeletons, one stone golem is all it takes to destroy your entire army.</p><p></p><p>Edit:</p><p>In all seriousness, your charts are awesome. Thanks for going to all that trouble to do all the analysis! Even if I disagree it will definitely help anyone else reading to know what is going on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 6360362, member: 9789"] I still don't think that's a big deal because the same argument can be made for the entire evocation school. Fireball potentially does WAY more damage than a fighter could do in one round; that's all there is to it. So 4 skeletons attacking someone should be compared to [I]fireball[/I], not fighter DPR. And it isn't even close to as good as fireball when it comes to damage. It's not really a big deal until you get tons and tons of guys all at once; that is when the action economy thing starts to really unravel, because you're using the equivalent of 4 or 5 spell slots in one bonus action. THAT is crazy - the fact that 4 or 5 spell slots does more damage than a fighter is meaningless. I mean: [I]of course it does.[/I] They even made Delayed Blast Fireball into a concentration spell - that's how important it is to conserve how many spells can go off at one time. But Animate Dead is an exception they missed. Side point: anything that resists or is immune to non-magical attacks pretty much throws the chart out the window, and fighters zoom WAY ahead with a single +1 magic weapon. Even if you manage to get up to a few dozen skeletons, one stone golem is all it takes to destroy your entire army. Edit: In all seriousness, your charts are awesome. Thanks for going to all that trouble to do all the analysis! Even if I disagree it will definitely help anyone else reading to know what is going on. [/QUOTE]
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