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[5E Build] The Arcane Juggernaut
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<blockquote data-quote="DarkTechnomancer" data-source="post: 6905457" data-attributes="member: 6855764"><p>Swashbuckler can already sneak attack with OA most of the time. Blur is easier to use effectively than Darkness. You need the ability to see in Darkness as well, which means at least two more levels of multi-classing (Shadow Sorcerer technically has the ability at first level, but can only apply it to Darkness cast with Sorcery points, which they don't get until 2), and charisma requirements on an already very MAD build. Ditching Cleric and Wisdom entirely for Charisma-based alternatives is certainly something to consider, but I think I'd need more than just Darkness combo to justify the loss of both Bless and Shield of Faith.</p><p></p><p>My experience with Blindsight might be skewed by the fact that I've been playing a lot of Underdark campaigns, but it seems like half the enemies I run into have some way around Blur or Invisibility.</p><p></p><p></p><p>By level 20 that bonus will be +5, since it continues to invest in intelligence. The Eldritch Knight obviously does well in this build, which is why it's one of my examples. You have to remember than in bounded accuracy a stackable +5 to AC is absurd. By using Blur or any other effect to give disadvantage to your opponents (or hell, even the Lucky feat) you becomes almost hilariously difficult to hit. I don't know if it is strictly better than having more HP and better Con saves, but there is more to survival that just a big HP pool.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkTechnomancer, post: 6905457, member: 6855764"] Swashbuckler can already sneak attack with OA most of the time. Blur is easier to use effectively than Darkness. You need the ability to see in Darkness as well, which means at least two more levels of multi-classing (Shadow Sorcerer technically has the ability at first level, but can only apply it to Darkness cast with Sorcery points, which they don't get until 2), and charisma requirements on an already very MAD build. Ditching Cleric and Wisdom entirely for Charisma-based alternatives is certainly something to consider, but I think I'd need more than just Darkness combo to justify the loss of both Bless and Shield of Faith. My experience with Blindsight might be skewed by the fact that I've been playing a lot of Underdark campaigns, but it seems like half the enemies I run into have some way around Blur or Invisibility. By level 20 that bonus will be +5, since it continues to invest in intelligence. The Eldritch Knight obviously does well in this build, which is why it's one of my examples. You have to remember than in bounded accuracy a stackable +5 to AC is absurd. By using Blur or any other effect to give disadvantage to your opponents (or hell, even the Lucky feat) you becomes almost hilariously difficult to hit. I don't know if it is strictly better than having more HP and better Con saves, but there is more to survival that just a big HP pool. [/QUOTE]
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