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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7825212" data-attributes="member: 6966824"><p>Never getting extra attack seems like wasted potential with shadow blade, especially if you have a reliable way to generate advantage on all your attacks. Also thematically it feels to me like a shadow blade user ought to be in light armor or no armor (mage armor). Something about being a shadow-based character clad in clunky armor just seems off to me.</p><p></p><p>Why not go high elf, do bladesinger instead of sorcerer, so you eventually get a second attack which you really want with a shadow blade, a concentration buff that largely replaces proficiency from sorcerer (and stacks with it if you get Resilient CON)?</p><p></p><p>I think I'd do</p><p></p><p>STR 9, DEX 14+2, CON 13, INT 15+1, WIS 13, CHA 8</p><p></p><p>grab Resilient CON at 6th, boost DEX at 10th.</p><p></p><p>At low levels wear the medium armor and shield, but when you get bladesong you can switch to unarmored with mage armor; with bladesong you have an AC of 19 (or 18 if you run out of bladesong and just equip a shield), which you can get up to 23/24 with the shield spell. You get extra attack at 8th, by which point you'll have five 3rd and 4th level slots, plus arcane recovery, so you can pretty much be using a 3d8 shadow blade all the time at (2 x (3d8 + 3) with advantage per turn; compare that to (1 x (4d8+3) using booming blade). In bladesong your concentration bonus will be +8, and you have a nice mobility boost. You won't have metamagic but you'll have more and better spells, and more utility than you would as a sorcerer.</p><p></p><p>The biggest downside I see is competition for your bonus action in the first round, but you're also still a wizard, so you could spend the first round casting a spell and entering bladesong (or using CD when needed), and then start with shadow blade in round 2.</p><p></p><p>Or you could start with one level of Fighter for CON save proficiency and dueling style, freeing up an ASI, but at the cost of delaying those key milestones (CD, shadow blade, extra attack). But then you could grab the 2nd fighter level at 10th to get action surge and make 4 x (3d8+6) attacks all at advantage. I think it would depend what level range you're planning to spend time in.</p><p></p><p>Edit: I forgot about elven accuracy. I might rather start with 9, 15+2, 14, 13+1, 13, 8, take Elven Accuracy at 6th, and then war caster after that (both for concentration and for shadow blade + booming blade AoOs)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7825212, member: 6966824"] Never getting extra attack seems like wasted potential with shadow blade, especially if you have a reliable way to generate advantage on all your attacks. Also thematically it feels to me like a shadow blade user ought to be in light armor or no armor (mage armor). Something about being a shadow-based character clad in clunky armor just seems off to me. Why not go high elf, do bladesinger instead of sorcerer, so you eventually get a second attack which you really want with a shadow blade, a concentration buff that largely replaces proficiency from sorcerer (and stacks with it if you get Resilient CON)? I think I'd do STR 9, DEX 14+2, CON 13, INT 15+1, WIS 13, CHA 8 grab Resilient CON at 6th, boost DEX at 10th. At low levels wear the medium armor and shield, but when you get bladesong you can switch to unarmored with mage armor; with bladesong you have an AC of 19 (or 18 if you run out of bladesong and just equip a shield), which you can get up to 23/24 with the shield spell. You get extra attack at 8th, by which point you'll have five 3rd and 4th level slots, plus arcane recovery, so you can pretty much be using a 3d8 shadow blade all the time at (2 x (3d8 + 3) with advantage per turn; compare that to (1 x (4d8+3) using booming blade). In bladesong your concentration bonus will be +8, and you have a nice mobility boost. You won't have metamagic but you'll have more and better spells, and more utility than you would as a sorcerer. The biggest downside I see is competition for your bonus action in the first round, but you're also still a wizard, so you could spend the first round casting a spell and entering bladesong (or using CD when needed), and then start with shadow blade in round 2. Or you could start with one level of Fighter for CON save proficiency and dueling style, freeing up an ASI, but at the cost of delaying those key milestones (CD, shadow blade, extra attack). But then you could grab the 2nd fighter level at 10th to get action surge and make 4 x (3d8+6) attacks all at advantage. I think it would depend what level range you're planning to spend time in. Edit: I forgot about elven accuracy. I might rather start with 9, 15+2, 14, 13+1, 13, 8, take Elven Accuracy at 6th, and then war caster after that (both for concentration and for shadow blade + booming blade AoOs) [/QUOTE]
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