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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 6710988" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>Nice catch on the text, however, Cthulhu wasn't in red because I hadn't updated his stat block to comply with the revised "Epic Monster Stats by CR" table. He has been updated now and the text is bold red as well.</p><p></p><p>I know it is not D&D canon, but I've always treated Tiamat and Bahamut has greater gods (I think because Dragonlance had a big influence on my formative D&D years and I dig the Babylonian creation mythology). So this more my personal mythology than canon. I am thinking about including "avatars" of them that would be a more typical D&D CR. </p><p></p><p>The reason Tiamat has a higher CR is I've always like the idea that good has to struggle against the larger evil brute. Also, they are both dragon gods, but Tiamat is just bigger and can do more damage - that is what CR is usually based on. It is harder to define Bahamut's traits.</p><p></p><p>I am actually think of dropping Tharizdun down some. All the resources agree that he is imprisoned, and you don't get stronger in solitary (I just did a survey of 3 prisons for my job last summer and I know what I'm talking about on that one<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />. I'm think CR 36 or 37.</p><p></p><p>Mordain is so high because he was among the most powerful of the greater gods in the 1e Deities and Demigods (400hp - max hit points) and it was hinted that he was the most powerful god in 4e. Not sure what he was in 2e-3e (I've only played 1e, 4e, & 5e. So I figured I would put him at the top. I am open to suggestions for changes though. Actually, all of the rankings are open to change if someone can give me an explanation for a revision. The only changes I wouldn't make are to Tiamat, Bahamut, and Ahat-Hir. Though I would entertain making a lower powered versions as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 6710988, member: 83242"] Nice catch on the text, however, Cthulhu wasn't in red because I hadn't updated his stat block to comply with the revised "Epic Monster Stats by CR" table. He has been updated now and the text is bold red as well. I know it is not D&D canon, but I've always treated Tiamat and Bahamut has greater gods (I think because Dragonlance had a big influence on my formative D&D years and I dig the Babylonian creation mythology). So this more my personal mythology than canon. I am thinking about including "avatars" of them that would be a more typical D&D CR. The reason Tiamat has a higher CR is I've always like the idea that good has to struggle against the larger evil brute. Also, they are both dragon gods, but Tiamat is just bigger and can do more damage - that is what CR is usually based on. It is harder to define Bahamut's traits. I am actually think of dropping Tharizdun down some. All the resources agree that he is imprisoned, and you don't get stronger in solitary (I just did a survey of 3 prisons for my job last summer and I know what I'm talking about on that one;). I'm think CR 36 or 37. Mordain is so high because he was among the most powerful of the greater gods in the 1e Deities and Demigods (400hp - max hit points) and it was hinted that he was the most powerful god in 4e. Not sure what he was in 2e-3e (I've only played 1e, 4e, & 5e. So I figured I would put him at the top. I am open to suggestions for changes though. Actually, all of the rankings are open to change if someone can give me an explanation for a revision. The only changes I wouldn't make are to Tiamat, Bahamut, and Ahat-Hir. Though I would entertain making a lower powered versions as well. [/QUOTE]
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