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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 6958942" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>Okay, so my take is that if you want a Genie Pact Warlock to be able to learn a limited number of additional spells, that's powerful but not unbalanceable. However, it probably shouldn't be linked to the kind of Pact. </p><p></p><p>So if you're a Genie Pact warlock (of any type) you obtain the services of a spell-obtaining Gen who will appear at your call, and go run off and fetch spells for you. This isn't part of a Gen creature description, or a familiar trait. In this case, the Gen is acting as a messenger for a greater power which is fulfilling a contracted obligation to you.</p><p></p><p>A Gen isn't available as a normal familiar at all in this situation.</p><p></p><p>But if a Warlock of the Noble Genie Pact chooses the Pact of the Chain, they CAN select a Gen as an improved familiar. Its power level should be on par with imps or pseudodragons or sprites or whatnot. They don't get to fetch spells, because that's not something Gens do by their own power. It's something that a Noble Genie can empower them to do in specific circumstances.</p><p></p><p>The difference may be immaterial, since any warlock with a gen familiar is definitionally also Noble Genie Pact, and so you could always rule that the Gen familiar is ALSO the creature who fetches the spells on behalf of the Genie pactholder...but just for the sake of keeping the mechanics straight, I think it's still important to note that normal Gens, without the intervention of a noble genie, wouldn't be able to do this service for a spellcaster.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise things can get weird. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 6958942, member: 4936"] Okay, so my take is that if you want a Genie Pact Warlock to be able to learn a limited number of additional spells, that's powerful but not unbalanceable. However, it probably shouldn't be linked to the kind of Pact. So if you're a Genie Pact warlock (of any type) you obtain the services of a spell-obtaining Gen who will appear at your call, and go run off and fetch spells for you. This isn't part of a Gen creature description, or a familiar trait. In this case, the Gen is acting as a messenger for a greater power which is fulfilling a contracted obligation to you. A Gen isn't available as a normal familiar at all in this situation. But if a Warlock of the Noble Genie Pact chooses the Pact of the Chain, they CAN select a Gen as an improved familiar. Its power level should be on par with imps or pseudodragons or sprites or whatnot. They don't get to fetch spells, because that's not something Gens do by their own power. It's something that a Noble Genie can empower them to do in specific circumstances. The difference may be immaterial, since any warlock with a gen familiar is definitionally also Noble Genie Pact, and so you could always rule that the Gen familiar is ALSO the creature who fetches the spells on behalf of the Genie pactholder...but just for the sake of keeping the mechanics straight, I think it's still important to note that normal Gens, without the intervention of a noble genie, wouldn't be able to do this service for a spellcaster. Otherwise things can get weird. :) [/QUOTE]
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