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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8781649" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>1e had Deities & Demigods which gave gods stats. Peopel did fight and kill those gods. Now if you just went by their statblock they were not always that amazing, but the front of the book gave some basic powers to all deities that made them more powerful, but it was easy to miss.</p><p></p><p>3e also had a Deities & Demigods that provided stats for gods that could be fought and killed. However, I never played that edition and I may be missing something. As far as I can tell this are the actual god stats not avatars.</p><p></p><p>4e provided stats for several gods. The even gave descriptions on what was need to actually kill a god (more than just a statblock). There was even an adventure path that ended with killing Tiamat in her lair (with options to make a permanent death or not). All the gods stats also had lesser avatar versions called "Aspects."</p><p></p><p>5e initially provide stat for Tiamat and said these where he full lesser god stats. This seems to have been reconned by Fizban's which includes an avatar of Tiamat that is more powerful than the original Tiamat stats. Also, the 5e DMG says this about gods:</p><p></p><p><strong>Greater deities</strong> are beyond mortal understanding. They can’t be summoned, and they are almost always removed from direct involvement in mortal affairs. On very rare occasions they manifest avatars similar to lesser deities, but slaying a greater god’s avatar has no effect on the god itself.</p><p></p><p><strong>Lesser deities</strong> are embodied somewhere in the planes. Some lesser deities live in the Material Plane, as does the unicorn-goddess Lurue of the Forgotten Realms and the titanic shark-god Sekolah revered by the sahuagin. Others live on the Outer Planes, as Lolth does in the Abyss. Such deities can be encountered by mortals.</p><p></p><p>Lesser gods are "embodied" and there is no mention of slaying a lesser god's avatar like there is for greater gods. It seems clear that lesser gods can attacked and possibly killed by mortals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 8781649, member: 83242"] 1e had Deities & Demigods which gave gods stats. Peopel did fight and kill those gods. Now if you just went by their statblock they were not always that amazing, but the front of the book gave some basic powers to all deities that made them more powerful, but it was easy to miss. 3e also had a Deities & Demigods that provided stats for gods that could be fought and killed. However, I never played that edition and I may be missing something. As far as I can tell this are the actual god stats not avatars. 4e provided stats for several gods. The even gave descriptions on what was need to actually kill a god (more than just a statblock). There was even an adventure path that ended with killing Tiamat in her lair (with options to make a permanent death or not). All the gods stats also had lesser avatar versions called "Aspects." 5e initially provide stat for Tiamat and said these where he full lesser god stats. This seems to have been reconned by Fizban's which includes an avatar of Tiamat that is more powerful than the original Tiamat stats. Also, the 5e DMG says this about gods: [B]Greater deities[/B] are beyond mortal understanding. They can’t be summoned, and they are almost always removed from direct involvement in mortal affairs. On very rare occasions they manifest avatars similar to lesser deities, but slaying a greater god’s avatar has no effect on the god itself. [B]Lesser deities[/B] are embodied somewhere in the planes. Some lesser deities live in the Material Plane, as does the unicorn-goddess Lurue of the Forgotten Realms and the titanic shark-god Sekolah revered by the sahuagin. Others live on the Outer Planes, as Lolth does in the Abyss. Such deities can be encountered by mortals. Lesser gods are "embodied" and there is no mention of slaying a lesser god's avatar like there is for greater gods. It seems clear that lesser gods can attacked and possibly killed by mortals. [/QUOTE]
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