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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9200818" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>IMO this works, However I think that is a large investment in at least 3 levels that is going to cut into your Ki, your Unarmed Strikes die and your subclass abilities. Overall I would say your character would be weaker in combat compared to a straight Monk at most levels.</p><p></p><p>Also when you multiclass is going to be difficult. You don't want to delay Extra Attack and Stunning Strike. So after Monk 5th level is I guess the best time to do this and then go 4 levels in Ranger, getting an ASI before back to Monk. At that point though you are getting 5 ki per short rest instead of 9 and you did not get Evasion or your 6th level subclass ability which is usually significant. Very high levels is where the Monk really starts to take off, getting all the save proficiencies and becoming probably the most powerful non-caster overall and you are either never going to get to those levels or get to the first couple of them very late. So if you did it this way - went 5 in Monk then 4 in Ranger, you are probably more powerful at 8th-10th level as compared to a straight Monk, but worse at 6th-7th and at all levels above 10.</p><p></p><p>HM is generally a better bonus action than FOB, especially since it does not use ki and on subsequent rounds it will combine with your FOB if it is the same enemy. Honestly though, I don't like using FOB much at all, I think my current 9th level Monk has only used it twice total in the whole 1-9 campaign so far.</p><p></p><p>You don't really need Ranger for Hunters Mark. You can pick it up through Fey Touched while also boosting Wisdom. You won't be able to cast it as often, but a single level in Cleric to get more slots is a better option than 3 or 4 levels in Ranger I think. Light, Death and Tempest all work extremely well on a 1-level dip with Monk. Also you can consider Hex through Fey Touched as an alternative to HM. It does similar 1d6 damage but it is a better spell than HM.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9200818, member: 7030563"] IMO this works, However I think that is a large investment in at least 3 levels that is going to cut into your Ki, your Unarmed Strikes die and your subclass abilities. Overall I would say your character would be weaker in combat compared to a straight Monk at most levels. Also when you multiclass is going to be difficult. You don't want to delay Extra Attack and Stunning Strike. So after Monk 5th level is I guess the best time to do this and then go 4 levels in Ranger, getting an ASI before back to Monk. At that point though you are getting 5 ki per short rest instead of 9 and you did not get Evasion or your 6th level subclass ability which is usually significant. Very high levels is where the Monk really starts to take off, getting all the save proficiencies and becoming probably the most powerful non-caster overall and you are either never going to get to those levels or get to the first couple of them very late. So if you did it this way - went 5 in Monk then 4 in Ranger, you are probably more powerful at 8th-10th level as compared to a straight Monk, but worse at 6th-7th and at all levels above 10. HM is generally a better bonus action than FOB, especially since it does not use ki and on subsequent rounds it will combine with your FOB if it is the same enemy. Honestly though, I don't like using FOB much at all, I think my current 9th level Monk has only used it twice total in the whole 1-9 campaign so far. You don't really need Ranger for Hunters Mark. You can pick it up through Fey Touched while also boosting Wisdom. You won't be able to cast it as often, but a single level in Cleric to get more slots is a better option than 3 or 4 levels in Ranger I think. Light, Death and Tempest all work extremely well on a 1-level dip with Monk. Also you can consider Hex through Fey Touched as an alternative to HM. It does similar 1d6 damage but it is a better spell than HM. [/QUOTE]
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