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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3736849" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey there Thanee, </p><p></p><p>apologies for missing you post first time around. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Totally agree.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Unfortunately there isn't a power doubling every two levels or anything like it, at least not over the full 20-level spread, and certainly not over a 30-level spread.</p><p></p><p>WotC just about got away with that mistake in 3/3.5E because the twenty level spread meant things never really got too far out of whack one way or the other. However, with a 30-level spread they'll have to give a bit more care and attention.</p><p></p><p>The doubling (where doubling means two characters are equal to one of the higher level) of power is something like +33%.</p><p></p><p>Which means that 3rd Editions 'sweet spot' (6th-14th) is basically the only place where WotC's EL +2 = doubling of power is accurate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True, but its a false assumption to begin with.</p><p></p><p>If every level means the same boost, then the jump from 29th to 30th (3.5%) is less important than the jump from 9th to 10th (10%).</p><p></p><p>What you could do is boost each level to give greater and greater power (+33% every 2 levels), but I don't see that happening for a variety of reasons. Firstly its very complicated. Secondly 30th-level in 4th Edition would be akin to 53rd-level in 3rd Edition. Also the first few levels would be very little difference.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which seems to be roughly what an appropriate challenge 'is' or rather 'should be', as defined for 4th Edition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 3736849, member: 326"] Hey there Thanee, apologies for missing you post first time around. :o Totally agree. Unfortunately there isn't a power doubling every two levels or anything like it, at least not over the full 20-level spread, and certainly not over a 30-level spread. WotC just about got away with that mistake in 3/3.5E because the twenty level spread meant things never really got too far out of whack one way or the other. However, with a 30-level spread they'll have to give a bit more care and attention. The doubling (where doubling means two characters are equal to one of the higher level) of power is something like +33%. Which means that 3rd Editions 'sweet spot' (6th-14th) is basically the only place where WotC's EL +2 = doubling of power is accurate. True, but its a false assumption to begin with. If every level means the same boost, then the jump from 29th to 30th (3.5%) is less important than the jump from 9th to 10th (10%). What you could do is boost each level to give greater and greater power (+33% every 2 levels), but I don't see that happening for a variety of reasons. Firstly its very complicated. Secondly 30th-level in 4th Edition would be akin to 53rd-level in 3rd Edition. Also the first few levels would be very little difference. Which seems to be roughly what an appropriate challenge 'is' or rather 'should be', as defined for 4th Edition. [/QUOTE]
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