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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 5066574" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Howdy Axolotl matey! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Fire away. I pretty much know how exactly I'll be treating Demigods (Legendary Tier). But as regards Gods (Immortal Tier), I have an issue with allowing them to tap the dimensions - I probably will though, the secondary problem then being what do I do with the Sidereal Tier - but given how far away that is from now I'll worry about that (if and) when I get there. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its a good point. The way I see it though, by default I don't know if QP will be the basic building blocks of immortality anymore. I have tied immortality to level directly, so having a seperate system for divinity is unnecessary.</p><p></p><p>That said, I think people in a more 'realistic' (if thats the word) campaign, or at least realistic as in time frames, will probably use the Worship Point System, rather than EXP. </p><p></p><p>However, how many people will want that time frame is unknown, probably not too many, players will want to progress at the same rate as levels 1-30, so play twice a month and get to Overgod in 2-3 years! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally I see Akalich being an extension of the (Lich) Epic Destiny.</p><p></p><p>I don't think characters need to be Demigods (although that Epic Destiny gets a lot of following). </p><p></p><p><strong><u>Epic Destinies</u></strong></p><p>Astral - Demigod (might create my own called Exarch) or Duke of Hell</p><p>Elemental - Elementar</p><p>Abyssal - Demon Lord</p><p>Shadowfell - Various Undead Types (Death Knight, Lich, Vampire, Mummy, Wraith...could be some cool variant ideas from the Vampire Bestiary) or Daemon Master</p><p>Temporal - Ethnarch </p><p>Interdimensional - Rift Keeper</p><p>etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Funnily enough about a month ago (when I got the Prince of Undeath 4E adventure - which looks pretty good) I did some brainstorming on my version, just to see how I would convert it.</p><p></p><p>Some elements depend upon how you change (or if you change) Orcus at all - the 4E version is pretty good, but then that caps the adventure for about Level 30...and with about 13 encounters in each part, you are looking at a 3 Level spread at best 28-29 (Castle Perilous, Against Zhenghi on Toril) and 29-30 (Against Orcus in the Abyss).</p><p></p><p>Boosting Orcus to greater power in 4E would be as simple as a 5 Level power-up. Then of course you would want to reset the adventure for a 33-35 Level spread.</p><p></p><p>But don't worry, my Against the Reptile God adventure will be cool. I've set it up so that you can <em><strong>sort of</strong></em> play to the end with uber, min/maxed Level 30 characters but they will almost certainly get wiped.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 5066574, member: 326"] Howdy Axolotl matey! :) Fire away. I pretty much know how exactly I'll be treating Demigods (Legendary Tier). But as regards Gods (Immortal Tier), I have an issue with allowing them to tap the dimensions - I probably will though, the secondary problem then being what do I do with the Sidereal Tier - but given how far away that is from now I'll worry about that (if and) when I get there. :p Its a good point. The way I see it though, by default I don't know if QP will be the basic building blocks of immortality anymore. I have tied immortality to level directly, so having a seperate system for divinity is unnecessary. That said, I think people in a more 'realistic' (if thats the word) campaign, or at least realistic as in time frames, will probably use the Worship Point System, rather than EXP. However, how many people will want that time frame is unknown, probably not too many, players will want to progress at the same rate as levels 1-30, so play twice a month and get to Overgod in 2-3 years! :D Personally I see Akalich being an extension of the (Lich) Epic Destiny. I don't think characters need to be Demigods (although that Epic Destiny gets a lot of following). [B][U]Epic Destinies[/U][/B] Astral - Demigod (might create my own called Exarch) or Duke of Hell Elemental - Elementar Abyssal - Demon Lord Shadowfell - Various Undead Types (Death Knight, Lich, Vampire, Mummy, Wraith...could be some cool variant ideas from the Vampire Bestiary) or Daemon Master Temporal - Ethnarch Interdimensional - Rift Keeper etc. Funnily enough about a month ago (when I got the Prince of Undeath 4E adventure - which looks pretty good) I did some brainstorming on my version, just to see how I would convert it. Some elements depend upon how you change (or if you change) Orcus at all - the 4E version is pretty good, but then that caps the adventure for about Level 30...and with about 13 encounters in each part, you are looking at a 3 Level spread at best 28-29 (Castle Perilous, Against Zhenghi on Toril) and 29-30 (Against Orcus in the Abyss). Boosting Orcus to greater power in 4E would be as simple as a 5 Level power-up. Then of course you would want to reset the adventure for a 33-35 Level spread. But don't worry, my Against the Reptile God adventure will be cool. I've set it up so that you can [I][B]sort of[/B][/I] play to the end with uber, min/maxed Level 30 characters but they will almost certainly get wiped. [/QUOTE]
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