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<blockquote data-quote="Khisanth the Ancient" data-source="post: 5083320" data-attributes="member: 11368"><p>He escaped a trap, with outside help from the 'owners' of the Dreamlands; he didn't actually compete with Nyarlathotep in any sort of power-contest. And it's not totally clear what Nyarlathotep's purposes there really were (as it never is when Nyarlathotep is involved). </p><p></p><p>Almost certainly Randolph Carter wouldn't have survived if one of Nyarlathotep's more monstrous forms had been present. The being Carter encountered wasn't <em>all</em> of Nyarlathotep, just an avatar or whatever -- he's also being the Haunter of the Dark off wherever it lives, being that devil figure for witches, etc. etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And as the, effective, ruler of the Other Gods.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>His power is presumably sourced from Azathoth, sure; but Nyarlathotep is 100% in control of it. Azathoth (and most if not all of the Other Gods, barring Nyarlathotep) are totally mindless; they don't have any kind of 'veto power'. He <em>is</em> the soul of the Outer Gods, and it's not really meaningful IMO to distinguish between them in purposes and power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khisanth the Ancient, post: 5083320, member: 11368"] He escaped a trap, with outside help from the 'owners' of the Dreamlands; he didn't actually compete with Nyarlathotep in any sort of power-contest. And it's not totally clear what Nyarlathotep's purposes there really were (as it never is when Nyarlathotep is involved). Almost certainly Randolph Carter wouldn't have survived if one of Nyarlathotep's more monstrous forms had been present. The being Carter encountered wasn't [I]all[/I] of Nyarlathotep, just an avatar or whatever -- he's also being the Haunter of the Dark off wherever it lives, being that devil figure for witches, etc. etc. And as the, effective, ruler of the Other Gods. His power is presumably sourced from Azathoth, sure; but Nyarlathotep is 100% in control of it. Azathoth (and most if not all of the Other Gods, barring Nyarlathotep) are totally mindless; they don't have any kind of 'veto power'. He [I]is[/I] the soul of the Outer Gods, and it's not really meaningful IMO to distinguish between them in purposes and power. [/QUOTE]
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