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<blockquote data-quote="Bari" data-source="post: 3423024" data-attributes="member: 39791"><p>Look, for the first time, I'm gonna be serious in a post. Because I'm sick of this? Of course not. I don't get sick of listening to people, even if they say the same thing over and over. It doesn't mean they are stupid, it means they are finally understanding it.</p><p></p><p>We are NOT attacking Jhon. Not all of us, at least. Personally I don't remember anyone doing it, but, I'm not gonna read the whole thread again just to answer with 100% accuracy, when I can do with a 65%.</p><p>There are ways to tell things. If someone asks for your opinion, you have to be true. If you don't like it, you can't just say, "I absolutely LOVE it!". Unless it's a special case. And I personally think Jhon is like anyone else here, no special case (and I'm being exclusive? Yep, I am. Too bad. ) When it's not a special case, you just say, "Nah, I don't like it." And if the other guy looks at you sadly, you can say, "Not because it's bad! I just don't like it." Or then you can say, "I don't like it, it's horrible and you suck at this."</p><p></p><p>Most people here, as far as I can see, have chosen the second, "I don't like it." That's not negativity. That's honesty. Maybe you think he's bad at it, but telling him "you suck at it" is not honesty, that's just flaming. </p><p></p><p>Problems don't end well when you "don't care". Ignoring is not the solution. I wanted to stay out of this. I like Jhon, he's a nice chap. That's why I dittoed Deirdre, because I think that too. Constructive critics DO exist, even if they are rare. So it's not about turning your back on people beacuse you can't get them to agree with you. It's about working it out, no matter how much work it takes. And even if you don't get an A as a result, a B is always better than a D. </p><p></p><p>I have to agree, there was some -sort- of attack to him. The whole signature thing. It's HIS signature, and he puts it the way he wants. I think Jhon has put there, things he considers true. So why blame it? It only repeats once per thread, it's not like it's there bugging you all the time. Hell, most signatures here make me sigh. At least his makes some sense.</p><p></p><p>In few words, sometimes you have to be direct and go straight to the point for people to understand. I, personally, never wanted to attack Jhon. But, and I quote his signature here: </p><p>"-One does not ever realize the depths of one's self, until either pointed out, or made clear of by someone else that they either desire, or have had a great friendship with, family included."</p><p>I have not a "great friendship" with him. I never met him, on the real word, and for me, that's a requirement to have a real great friendship. But I consider him a friend enough, hence why I dittoed the others.</p><p></p><p>I felt the need to get out of my lame goofiness for once and explain this, because people here either say nasty things as "you disgust me!" or "kids, kids, lock the thread, it's off topic". Maybe it's off topic, but these things need to be talked out, otherwise they repress them and burst them out like Krystal did, no flame intended, just an example. Because you did burst out.</p><p></p><p>So don't say "I don't care". Because in the same text you say that, you also say "This isn't a community, at least not a caring one, not from what I've seen."</p><p></p><p>Now when people start pointing out in what I'm wrong here, I won't get mad at them, or "not care". I'll listen and say, "Damn, that's true." So I don't repeat it in the future. It's called learning.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bari, post: 3423024, member: 39791"] Look, for the first time, I'm gonna be serious in a post. Because I'm sick of this? Of course not. I don't get sick of listening to people, even if they say the same thing over and over. It doesn't mean they are stupid, it means they are finally understanding it. We are NOT attacking Jhon. Not all of us, at least. Personally I don't remember anyone doing it, but, I'm not gonna read the whole thread again just to answer with 100% accuracy, when I can do with a 65%. There are ways to tell things. If someone asks for your opinion, you have to be true. If you don't like it, you can't just say, "I absolutely LOVE it!". Unless it's a special case. And I personally think Jhon is like anyone else here, no special case (and I'm being exclusive? Yep, I am. Too bad. ) When it's not a special case, you just say, "Nah, I don't like it." And if the other guy looks at you sadly, you can say, "Not because it's bad! I just don't like it." Or then you can say, "I don't like it, it's horrible and you suck at this." Most people here, as far as I can see, have chosen the second, "I don't like it." That's not negativity. That's honesty. Maybe you think he's bad at it, but telling him "you suck at it" is not honesty, that's just flaming. Problems don't end well when you "don't care". Ignoring is not the solution. I wanted to stay out of this. I like Jhon, he's a nice chap. That's why I dittoed Deirdre, because I think that too. Constructive critics DO exist, even if they are rare. So it's not about turning your back on people beacuse you can't get them to agree with you. It's about working it out, no matter how much work it takes. And even if you don't get an A as a result, a B is always better than a D. I have to agree, there was some -sort- of attack to him. The whole signature thing. It's HIS signature, and he puts it the way he wants. I think Jhon has put there, things he considers true. So why blame it? It only repeats once per thread, it's not like it's there bugging you all the time. Hell, most signatures here make me sigh. At least his makes some sense. In few words, sometimes you have to be direct and go straight to the point for people to understand. I, personally, never wanted to attack Jhon. But, and I quote his signature here: "-One does not ever realize the depths of one's self, until either pointed out, or made clear of by someone else that they either desire, or have had a great friendship with, family included." I have not a "great friendship" with him. I never met him, on the real word, and for me, that's a requirement to have a real great friendship. But I consider him a friend enough, hence why I dittoed the others. I felt the need to get out of my lame goofiness for once and explain this, because people here either say nasty things as "you disgust me!" or "kids, kids, lock the thread, it's off topic". Maybe it's off topic, but these things need to be talked out, otherwise they repress them and burst them out like Krystal did, no flame intended, just an example. Because you did burst out. So don't say "I don't care". Because in the same text you say that, you also say "This isn't a community, at least not a caring one, not from what I've seen." Now when people start pointing out in what I'm wrong here, I won't get mad at them, or "not care". I'll listen and say, "Damn, that's true." So I don't repeat it in the future. It's called learning. [/QUOTE]
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