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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7466278" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Hm. If you're intent is to say that humans have water in them, then you're making an error by saying humans are composed of water. If this is the case, the issue is on your conveyance, not our taking you at your word.</p><p></p><p>However, what you are saying is that everything is magical because there's a background pervasive field of magic. This could be true but it also can not be true. To touch above, humans having wayer in them doesn't mean diamonds do, too. Magic can be pervasive yet the mundane can also exist.</p><p></p><p>Yes, from a specific philosophical viewpoint, souls are akin to magic. Note I say philosophy, because actual science is mum on the issue. </p><p></p><p></p><p>You're begging the question on everything being magical, again. Further, this whole thing started by you introducing the "everything is magic" argument to refute a statement about mechanics. You're switching back and forth depending on the adgument and haven't yet firmly established that tge mundane doesn't exist either aesthetically or mechanically.</p><p></p><p>Again, because it seems to be being ignored, everything is magic is a fine interpretation, a fine setting (I've done it), and a reasonable suggestion to Emerikol (although he doesn't have to accept it). I object to the absolute statement and to the rheyorical use of that absolute.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't agree, though. I interpret those selections as saying magic is nearly always reachable, but isn't part of things. There's a number of fictional settings that fit that bill, so it's not uncommon. It means I'm not struggling to explain dead magic zones and/or other planes where pervasive magic function differently, or in a limited manner, or not at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They are not contradictory. Pervasive means often present. The presence of a thing does not give it causal power.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, doing well there until the last para. "I was just trying to provide a possible justification to help the poster, but also that possibility is unavoidable and true and also shows the poster is wrong." Nope.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7466278, member: 16814"] Hm. If you're intent is to say that humans have water in them, then you're making an error by saying humans are composed of water. If this is the case, the issue is on your conveyance, not our taking you at your word. However, what you are saying is that everything is magical because there's a background pervasive field of magic. This could be true but it also can not be true. To touch above, humans having wayer in them doesn't mean diamonds do, too. Magic can be pervasive yet the mundane can also exist. Yes, from a specific philosophical viewpoint, souls are akin to magic. Note I say philosophy, because actual science is mum on the issue. You're begging the question on everything being magical, again. Further, this whole thing started by you introducing the "everything is magic" argument to refute a statement about mechanics. You're switching back and forth depending on the adgument and haven't yet firmly established that tge mundane doesn't exist either aesthetically or mechanically. Again, because it seems to be being ignored, everything is magic is a fine interpretation, a fine setting (I've done it), and a reasonable suggestion to Emerikol (although he doesn't have to accept it). I object to the absolute statement and to the rheyorical use of that absolute. I don't agree, though. I interpret those selections as saying magic is nearly always reachable, but isn't part of things. There's a number of fictional settings that fit that bill, so it's not uncommon. It means I'm not struggling to explain dead magic zones and/or other planes where pervasive magic function differently, or in a limited manner, or not at all. They are not contradictory. Pervasive means often present. The presence of a thing does not give it causal power. Right, doing well there until the last para. "I was just trying to provide a possible justification to help the poster, but also that possibility is unavoidable and true and also shows the poster is wrong." Nope. [/QUOTE]
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