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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 7467289" data-attributes="member: 6698278"><p>Okay in my campaign world, I detail things out a LOT. So I will know if a tavern exists. I don't make stuff up on the fly all that much. I might make up a minor detail but not the existence of a business. So the confusion may be on that point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think many of those thoughts and feelings are actually entirely reasonable as character motivations. I had a PC once who was bothering another PC because he was too slow a methodical. To me that is as reasonable as a character motivation as it is a player motivation.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps. I don't own the game so I was hoping to ascertain whether it was worth getting or not. Bawylie's DR idea works better than temporary hit points. I just wanted to hear all ideas though because I believe I can pick from a list and pick well but I won't always think of all the possibilities so I didn't want to miss anything.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm looking at a lot of options and not just one. I will look at pf2e. It is probably closer to what I want at this point. They aren't going to build in things that are openly metagame (as I define it). Of course they may have feats or extension which very much are. </p><p></p><p>It's funny because in the old days of D&D most DM's viewed themselves as armchair game designers. Gygax once said the real secret is the DM's don't need us. I believe that now. I could write my own D&D game if I wanted. It would likely look more like a retroclone with some 3e conceits. Obviously, I am standing on the shoulders of giants and not inventing whole cloth which is a lot easier. I also don't have to write it up to nearly the quality level of a finished product.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 7467289, member: 6698278"] Okay in my campaign world, I detail things out a LOT. So I will know if a tavern exists. I don't make stuff up on the fly all that much. I might make up a minor detail but not the existence of a business. So the confusion may be on that point. I think many of those thoughts and feelings are actually entirely reasonable as character motivations. I had a PC once who was bothering another PC because he was too slow a methodical. To me that is as reasonable as a character motivation as it is a player motivation. Perhaps. I don't own the game so I was hoping to ascertain whether it was worth getting or not. Bawylie's DR idea works better than temporary hit points. I just wanted to hear all ideas though because I believe I can pick from a list and pick well but I won't always think of all the possibilities so I didn't want to miss anything. I'm looking at a lot of options and not just one. I will look at pf2e. It is probably closer to what I want at this point. They aren't going to build in things that are openly metagame (as I define it). Of course they may have feats or extension which very much are. It's funny because in the old days of D&D most DM's viewed themselves as armchair game designers. Gygax once said the real secret is the DM's don't need us. I believe that now. I could write my own D&D game if I wanted. It would likely look more like a retroclone with some 3e conceits. Obviously, I am standing on the shoulders of giants and not inventing whole cloth which is a lot easier. I also don't have to write it up to nearly the quality level of a finished product. [/QUOTE]
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