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<blockquote data-quote="Stasis_Delirium" data-source="post: 5973393" data-attributes="member: 6697114"><p>I have to admit, I might just not be getting the logic behind the original proposal.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure why a new edition must be <em>stopped</em>. If they had done that with 1e, we wouldn't have 2e. or 3e. Or 4e for that matter. Are these the only valid editions because they came before? Are there editions that I can lobby to not have supported for the same reason a new edition shouldn't be supported? What are the rules here?</p><p></p><p>Is it because there is belief that the core is already there, and can be added to with several earlier editions? if that's so, where do we shoe-horn in the advantage rules? The traits and background rules? Do we have to use them? And for what edition should they be used for? Do we try to jam all of those rules (rules that I see potential in, by the way.) into all of the past editions? Or just certain ones. What if people are angry because 4e didn't get the traits rules book they were promised, but the 1,2 and 3e rulesets did get it?</p><p></p><p>Who decides what support for what system gets released and what doesn't? And who deals with the molten vitriol directed at the company when 'widgets for 1e' is released before 'exploding goblins for 4e'?</p><p></p><p>And what happens if an adventure from a module written for 4th requires certain assumptions of 4th edition rules to be in play, do they change things in the older modules drastically? Do they not release that module? What about treasure types, charts, different monetary values and systems, everything else. Universality among the older editions sounds like chaos playing tennis with itself.</p><p></p><p>Does the fact that I enjoyed running and playing in the recent playtests mean that I had fun wrong? Am I a freak who's voice should be ignored because I'd like to see where this crazy 5e thing goes, for good or ill?</p><p></p><p>I have no malice towards the original post (or poster) but I just honestly don't understand a business model based on releases of older core sets only, and why any progress beyond those editions must be, at all costs, halted and destroyed.</p><p></p><p>Is it at least okay to hold off obliterating the new edition from orbit before the next playtest packet goes out? I'd at least like to see what some of the character creation rules and tactics/social/et modules are like. I just can't throw a whole edition into the bin based on one very basic glimpse at a ruleset that might have entirely changed as I write this.</p><p></p><p>I think the delicate masses might be able to withstand the withering blast of just one more packet before they throw in the towel and go back to making books for 5 systems that might not sell all 5 copies. Hasbro should be able to eat those costs though, and game/book stores seem to be happy with having to bring in multiples of five copies of one book over each of those systems.</p><p></p><p>I just don't like seeing 'what we have is good enough' as the only defense. Perhaps I'm just nuts for being curious about new design.</p><p></p><p>Genuinely confused why 'make more art' isn't the answer here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stasis_Delirium, post: 5973393, member: 6697114"] I have to admit, I might just not be getting the logic behind the original proposal. I'm not sure why a new edition must be [I]stopped[/I]. If they had done that with 1e, we wouldn't have 2e. or 3e. Or 4e for that matter. Are these the only valid editions because they came before? Are there editions that I can lobby to not have supported for the same reason a new edition shouldn't be supported? What are the rules here? Is it because there is belief that the core is already there, and can be added to with several earlier editions? if that's so, where do we shoe-horn in the advantage rules? The traits and background rules? Do we have to use them? And for what edition should they be used for? Do we try to jam all of those rules (rules that I see potential in, by the way.) into all of the past editions? Or just certain ones. What if people are angry because 4e didn't get the traits rules book they were promised, but the 1,2 and 3e rulesets did get it? Who decides what support for what system gets released and what doesn't? And who deals with the molten vitriol directed at the company when 'widgets for 1e' is released before 'exploding goblins for 4e'? And what happens if an adventure from a module written for 4th requires certain assumptions of 4th edition rules to be in play, do they change things in the older modules drastically? Do they not release that module? What about treasure types, charts, different monetary values and systems, everything else. Universality among the older editions sounds like chaos playing tennis with itself. Does the fact that I enjoyed running and playing in the recent playtests mean that I had fun wrong? Am I a freak who's voice should be ignored because I'd like to see where this crazy 5e thing goes, for good or ill? I have no malice towards the original post (or poster) but I just honestly don't understand a business model based on releases of older core sets only, and why any progress beyond those editions must be, at all costs, halted and destroyed. Is it at least okay to hold off obliterating the new edition from orbit before the next playtest packet goes out? I'd at least like to see what some of the character creation rules and tactics/social/et modules are like. I just can't throw a whole edition into the bin based on one very basic glimpse at a ruleset that might have entirely changed as I write this. I think the delicate masses might be able to withstand the withering blast of just one more packet before they throw in the towel and go back to making books for 5 systems that might not sell all 5 copies. Hasbro should be able to eat those costs though, and game/book stores seem to be happy with having to bring in multiples of five copies of one book over each of those systems. I just don't like seeing 'what we have is good enough' as the only defense. Perhaps I'm just nuts for being curious about new design. Genuinely confused why 'make more art' isn't the answer here. [/QUOTE]
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