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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet" data-source="post: 7189790" data-attributes="member: 6689161"><p>I mostly played 1e AD&D. Skipped 2e entirely. Dabbled with 3e and skipped 3.5. Two sessions of 4e...</p><p></p><p>We took characters with suboptimal stats at times. </p><p></p><p>Sometimes we took "odd" stat arrangements for fun. For example, I had a wood elf thief with an 18 (sans exceptional!) Str. We did take odd combinations including dwarven thieves. I did have a Half Orc Cleric, single classed.</p><p></p><p>The restriction sucked. Unearthed opened them up a bit. We did what we wanted. This included using broadsword or flails, and so on. </p><p></p><p>I knew few people that got much beyond name level and even if they did, they got a whopping 3 hit points a level if they were fighters!</p><p></p><p>Human wizards were another story.</p><p></p><p>So I hear you, but I still do not see total optimization as required at most tables or in most published works. If death awaits it is usually by overkill.</p><p></p><p>And back in the day, I took a half-orc fighter with the belief that 10th or 12th (whatever the single class cap was in UA of that edition) was OK. Really high levels as you may know were a total grind, hard to earn and not seen by all people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warpiglet, post: 7189790, member: 6689161"] I mostly played 1e AD&D. Skipped 2e entirely. Dabbled with 3e and skipped 3.5. Two sessions of 4e... We took characters with suboptimal stats at times. Sometimes we took "odd" stat arrangements for fun. For example, I had a wood elf thief with an 18 (sans exceptional!) Str. We did take odd combinations including dwarven thieves. I did have a Half Orc Cleric, single classed. The restriction sucked. Unearthed opened them up a bit. We did what we wanted. This included using broadsword or flails, and so on. I knew few people that got much beyond name level and even if they did, they got a whopping 3 hit points a level if they were fighters! Human wizards were another story. So I hear you, but I still do not see total optimization as required at most tables or in most published works. If death awaits it is usually by overkill. And back in the day, I took a half-orc fighter with the belief that 10th or 12th (whatever the single class cap was in UA of that edition) was OK. Really high levels as you may know were a total grind, hard to earn and not seen by all people. [/QUOTE]
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