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<blockquote data-quote="Tharivious" data-source="post: 2854516" data-attributes="member: 28105"><p>So reading the original ISRP message board section makes one a close friend of a WizO? Because that was how most people found out. And it was released publically perhaps a week after the then-WizOs themselves were informed if I remember patches of conversations correctly (for the record, yes, I do consider many of the Magi to be friends, though I have lost touch with some in recent months).</p><p></p><p>Seriously, if people that are uninvolved with the community to the point that they ignore the message boards attached to them, then should those who are highly involved be considered "privelaged"? Hardly. We were merely paying closer attention to what was going on around us. And we acted in what we felt was the best interest of the community, seeking to provide as many options as we could while maintaining the integrity of the settings and community as a whole.</p><p></p><p>As one of many people who has never been a WizO/Magi and was part of the move project, I can honestly say that we did the best that we could and involved anyone and everyone who visited the UH forums during the project. Anyone that brought a voice was heard, and the general majority led the direction of the site to what it has become. Does that put fault on anyone who wasn't involved? Of course not, but it does translate to less weight to any claims of their opinions being ignored or otherwise not valued during the move.</p><p></p><p>As for Siani's comments being "poor", I beg to differ. The ISRP is and always has been a different sort of venue from the other sites mentioned. I can't speak for Charm's site as I've never visited it, but compared to the others, ISRP is the family friendly version, and far less bogged down by excessive violence, mature themes, and general full-force insanity. The Magi have done a fine job of maintaining that spirit in spite of the move away from the corporate sponsor, and should be commended for keeping a decent alternative to the less-restrained options.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I touched on it, and quite happily refuted it. It's strictly in-character based, and when characters would see the world this way, then it is only healthy to maintain suspension of disbelief, a key component in any setting's operation. Claiming racism from an out of character perspective without rationalizing based on the mindset of humans and their closest allies from that time period, in a low-magic setting, where the supernatural is generally looked at with concern by the common folk... doesn't work. To assume that all human settlements will be so ready to just accept that some monstrous races are good aligned is metagaming, pure and simple, and giving humans with a medieval mindset too much credit.</p><p></p><p>Elves, dwarves, and the small folk are all anthrocentric and look human enough to not be of worry to the natives of the town by sight, even though many may be looked upon with general awe or interest. Monstrous races, on the other hand, often look more than different enough to make superstitious simple-folk nervous, and nervous villagers leads to a watchful and narrow-minded militia.</p><p></p><p>Think about it, if someone tried telling you that those large creatures with the body of a horse and the torso of a human was a nice guy, and you saw one approaching with a bow and arrow or sword on its person, would you believe it without question?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tharivious, post: 2854516, member: 28105"] So reading the original ISRP message board section makes one a close friend of a WizO? Because that was how most people found out. And it was released publically perhaps a week after the then-WizOs themselves were informed if I remember patches of conversations correctly (for the record, yes, I do consider many of the Magi to be friends, though I have lost touch with some in recent months). Seriously, if people that are uninvolved with the community to the point that they ignore the message boards attached to them, then should those who are highly involved be considered "privelaged"? Hardly. We were merely paying closer attention to what was going on around us. And we acted in what we felt was the best interest of the community, seeking to provide as many options as we could while maintaining the integrity of the settings and community as a whole. As one of many people who has never been a WizO/Magi and was part of the move project, I can honestly say that we did the best that we could and involved anyone and everyone who visited the UH forums during the project. Anyone that brought a voice was heard, and the general majority led the direction of the site to what it has become. Does that put fault on anyone who wasn't involved? Of course not, but it does translate to less weight to any claims of their opinions being ignored or otherwise not valued during the move. As for Siani's comments being "poor", I beg to differ. The ISRP is and always has been a different sort of venue from the other sites mentioned. I can't speak for Charm's site as I've never visited it, but compared to the others, ISRP is the family friendly version, and far less bogged down by excessive violence, mature themes, and general full-force insanity. The Magi have done a fine job of maintaining that spirit in spite of the move away from the corporate sponsor, and should be commended for keeping a decent alternative to the less-restrained options. I touched on it, and quite happily refuted it. It's strictly in-character based, and when characters would see the world this way, then it is only healthy to maintain suspension of disbelief, a key component in any setting's operation. Claiming racism from an out of character perspective without rationalizing based on the mindset of humans and their closest allies from that time period, in a low-magic setting, where the supernatural is generally looked at with concern by the common folk... doesn't work. To assume that all human settlements will be so ready to just accept that some monstrous races are good aligned is metagaming, pure and simple, and giving humans with a medieval mindset too much credit. Elves, dwarves, and the small folk are all anthrocentric and look human enough to not be of worry to the natives of the town by sight, even though many may be looked upon with general awe or interest. Monstrous races, on the other hand, often look more than different enough to make superstitious simple-folk nervous, and nervous villagers leads to a watchful and narrow-minded militia. Think about it, if someone tried telling you that those large creatures with the body of a horse and the torso of a human was a nice guy, and you saw one approaching with a bow and arrow or sword on its person, would you believe it without question? [/QUOTE]
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