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<blockquote data-quote="Thanriyon" data-source="post: 2854550" data-attributes="member: 34663"><p>This thread, is, rapidly turning rediculous...</p><p></p><p> Greyhawk is a tight setting. You only have to look at what the RPGA allows and disallows in the Living Greyhawk campaign to understand that. </p><p>I'm forever hearing, and reading complaints about the 'restrictions' on the setting, or how this is 'unfair' and now, apparantly, 'racist' . </p><p> Have you bothered to learn the setting? Spend any of your time reading up on Oerth, it's history, and traditions? There's multitudes of web sites, and published materials available you know.</p><p> The Flanaess ( That portion of Oerth where the Domain of Greyhawk is located ) is still recovering from a series of devastating wars.</p><p> To the South of the Domain is the Pomarj, an Empire of Humanoids that invaded north into the Domain - Humanoids, and anything remotely non-human/non-demi-human is treated with distrust at best, or outright hostility. In some of the frontier towns, such as Narwell, there have been incidents of Half-orcs, and ugly humanoids lynched by mobs for fear that they were spies for the Pomarj.</p><p></p><p>Head north and you have the Empire of Iuz, which has inflicted quite a bit of damage on the Northern kingdoms, and the Domain. Here we have another band of mainly evil humans, andHumanoids, augemented by Fiends, and led by a Demi-God. Beginning to see why the Domain's a bit paranoid, hmm?</p><p></p><p>Head East, and there's the remnants of the Great Kingdom - Aerdy, and Ahlissa.. they've got a tradition of employing non-human, and planar nasties as troops.. </p><p></p><p>So yes, the Domain is perhaps a bit xenophobic, and frankly, who can blame them? They don't see Orc, Goblin, Drow, Fiend, Lizard Man, Celestial - They see, Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, and trouble, and that's how they respond - kill first, ask questions later.</p><p> That's how the Domain is, and frankly, I like the reality of how the Tavern rules reflect the setting.</p><p> </p><p> No one is forcing you to play in the Tavern, but the rules are there, and you should respect them, whether you like them or not, or go elsewhere.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Next we have complaints about the setting up of the site? We had barely what, six weeks notice from WoTc as I recall. It's thanks to the hard work of people like Gabriel, Siani, Trelian, and others that we had a site to go to at all. </p><p>Charm's site didn't even exist then, and other than Dykal, which some of us had issues with, there weren't any other places that we knew of. </p><p>Patrons worked with the Wizo's to help with the transition. Advice was asked, and listened to, and settings, and rules were implemented. </p><p> Not everyone likes the rules, and that's to be expected. There's almost no such thing as unanimous agreement in real life, so why expect it here?</p><p> Those of us that were there, when Wizard's were closed, and who knew how hard people were working to keep the community intact appreciate it greatly, so, yes, I think Siani, Gabriel, and the others deserve a Cookie. *hands them one*</p><p></p><p> Some of us like the way things are now - we have setting restrictions, but far more freedom to roleplay than we ever had in Wizards. </p><p></p><p>Paraphrased for those of limited patience - </p><p> - If you don't bother to learn the setting, don't complain about the setting rules.</p><p> - If you don't like the setting restrictions, play in a different setting.</p><p> - If you don't like the fact that the majority of the people do like the settings, don't start rediculous claims like 'Racism' or 'Unfair' or veil it under complaints about 'Descriptions'.</p><p> - Accept the simple fact that there is more to a setting than the DMG and PHB.</p><p> - Respect the fact that the Magi are unpaid volunteers.</p><p></p><p> That's from the Thannic perspective, enjoy. K thx bye!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanriyon, post: 2854550, member: 34663"] This thread, is, rapidly turning rediculous... Greyhawk is a tight setting. You only have to look at what the RPGA allows and disallows in the Living Greyhawk campaign to understand that. I'm forever hearing, and reading complaints about the 'restrictions' on the setting, or how this is 'unfair' and now, apparantly, 'racist' . Have you bothered to learn the setting? Spend any of your time reading up on Oerth, it's history, and traditions? There's multitudes of web sites, and published materials available you know. The Flanaess ( That portion of Oerth where the Domain of Greyhawk is located ) is still recovering from a series of devastating wars. To the South of the Domain is the Pomarj, an Empire of Humanoids that invaded north into the Domain - Humanoids, and anything remotely non-human/non-demi-human is treated with distrust at best, or outright hostility. In some of the frontier towns, such as Narwell, there have been incidents of Half-orcs, and ugly humanoids lynched by mobs for fear that they were spies for the Pomarj. Head north and you have the Empire of Iuz, which has inflicted quite a bit of damage on the Northern kingdoms, and the Domain. Here we have another band of mainly evil humans, andHumanoids, augemented by Fiends, and led by a Demi-God. Beginning to see why the Domain's a bit paranoid, hmm? Head East, and there's the remnants of the Great Kingdom - Aerdy, and Ahlissa.. they've got a tradition of employing non-human, and planar nasties as troops.. So yes, the Domain is perhaps a bit xenophobic, and frankly, who can blame them? They don't see Orc, Goblin, Drow, Fiend, Lizard Man, Celestial - They see, Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, and trouble, and that's how they respond - kill first, ask questions later. That's how the Domain is, and frankly, I like the reality of how the Tavern rules reflect the setting. No one is forcing you to play in the Tavern, but the rules are there, and you should respect them, whether you like them or not, or go elsewhere. Next we have complaints about the setting up of the site? We had barely what, six weeks notice from WoTc as I recall. It's thanks to the hard work of people like Gabriel, Siani, Trelian, and others that we had a site to go to at all. Charm's site didn't even exist then, and other than Dykal, which some of us had issues with, there weren't any other places that we knew of. Patrons worked with the Wizo's to help with the transition. Advice was asked, and listened to, and settings, and rules were implemented. Not everyone likes the rules, and that's to be expected. There's almost no such thing as unanimous agreement in real life, so why expect it here? Those of us that were there, when Wizard's were closed, and who knew how hard people were working to keep the community intact appreciate it greatly, so, yes, I think Siani, Gabriel, and the others deserve a Cookie. *hands them one* Some of us like the way things are now - we have setting restrictions, but far more freedom to roleplay than we ever had in Wizards. Paraphrased for those of limited patience - - If you don't bother to learn the setting, don't complain about the setting rules. - If you don't like the setting restrictions, play in a different setting. - If you don't like the fact that the majority of the people do like the settings, don't start rediculous claims like 'Racism' or 'Unfair' or veil it under complaints about 'Descriptions'. - Accept the simple fact that there is more to a setting than the DMG and PHB. - Respect the fact that the Magi are unpaid volunteers. That's from the Thannic perspective, enjoy. K thx bye! [/QUOTE]
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