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<blockquote data-quote="grodog" data-source="post: 7647439" data-attributes="member: 1613"><p>Dave---</p><p></p><p>A few corrections and other sources for you:</p><p></p><p>- Chainmail always had the fantasy supplement within it; see <a href="http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/chainmail.html" target="_blank">Chainmail</a> vs. <a href="http://www.tomeoftreasures.com/tot_odd/corerules/chainmail.htm" target="_blank">Tome of Treasures - D&D</a></p><p></p><p>- White Dwarf magazine was predated by the GW fanzine/newsletter Owl & Weasel (which was predated by Dungeoneer, which was predated by Alarums & Excursions; all of which were preceded by the Domesday Book and many other Dippy and wargames zines)</p><p></p><p>- Ral Partha was founded in 1974 <a href="https://www.thunderboltmountain.com/autobio.htm" target="_blank">per Tom Meier</a>; Grenadier was founded in 1975 by Andrew Chernak and Ray Rubin, (per Terrence Gunn's Fantastic Worlds of Grenadier)</p><p></p><p>Other stuff to consider adding:</p><p></p><p>- 1976 the S4 module is titled Lost Caverns of Tsojconth (not Tsojcanth); for some additional background/comparisons, see my S4 page @ <a href="http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_s4.html" target="_blank">Greyhawk's "Lost" Dungeon Levels:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> S4 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth</a></p><p>- 1975 I've also heard En Garde billed as the 2nd RPG, FWIW</p><p>- 1974 TSR publication of Warriors of Mars, unlicensed by the Burroughs estate</p><p>- 1973 TSR's first publication, Cavaliers & Roundheads</p><p></p><p>Some more sources:</p><p></p><p>- [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Heroic-Worlds-History-Guide-Playing/dp/0879756535/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271477692&sr=8-1"]Heroic Worlds by Lawrence Schick[/ame]</p><p></p><p>- <a href="http://www.tomeoftreasures.com/forum/index.php" target="_blank">Tome of Treasures :: Index</a> is a good source to supplement the Acaeum with (and it supercedes the Acaeum in several areas, notably non-TSR D&D, minis, non-D&D rpgs, wargames, and fanzines)</p><p></p><p>- <a href="http://www.afterglow2.com/" target="_blank">www.afterglow2.com</a> for non-TSR D&D stuff (has some stuff not in ToT above), as well as the original Afterglo, now only in the internet archive @ <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.stud.uni-hamburg.de/users/afterglo/rpg/nontsr.html" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.stud.uni-hamburg.de/users/afterglo/rpg/nontsr.html</a></p><p></p><p>- all D&D licensed minis are detailed at Ernst Wilhelm's <a href="http://www.dndlead.com/" target="_blank">The Miniature Art of Dungeons and Dragons</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="grodog, post: 7647439, member: 1613"] Dave--- A few corrections and other sources for you: - Chainmail always had the fantasy supplement within it; see [url=http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/chainmail.html]Chainmail[/url] vs. [url=http://www.tomeoftreasures.com/tot_odd/corerules/chainmail.htm]Tome of Treasures - D&D[/url] - White Dwarf magazine was predated by the GW fanzine/newsletter Owl & Weasel (which was predated by Dungeoneer, which was predated by Alarums & Excursions; all of which were preceded by the Domesday Book and many other Dippy and wargames zines) - Ral Partha was founded in 1974 [URL="https://www.thunderboltmountain.com/autobio.htm"]per Tom Meier[/URL]; Grenadier was founded in 1975 by Andrew Chernak and Ray Rubin, (per Terrence Gunn's Fantastic Worlds of Grenadier) Other stuff to consider adding: - 1976 the S4 module is titled Lost Caverns of Tsojconth (not Tsojcanth); for some additional background/comparisons, see my S4 page @ [url=http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_s4.html]Greyhawk's "Lost" Dungeon Levels::) S4 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth[/url] - 1975 I've also heard En Garde billed as the 2nd RPG, FWIW - 1974 TSR publication of Warriors of Mars, unlicensed by the Burroughs estate - 1973 TSR's first publication, Cavaliers & Roundheads Some more sources: - [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Heroic-Worlds-History-Guide-Playing/dp/0879756535/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271477692&sr=8-1"]Heroic Worlds by Lawrence Schick[/ame] - [url=http://www.tomeoftreasures.com/forum/index.php]Tome of Treasures :: Index[/url] is a good source to supplement the Acaeum with (and it supercedes the Acaeum in several areas, notably non-TSR D&D, minis, non-D&D rpgs, wargames, and fanzines) - [url=http://www.afterglow2.com/]www.afterglow2.com[/url] for non-TSR D&D stuff (has some stuff not in ToT above), as well as the original Afterglo, now only in the internet archive @ [url]http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.stud.uni-hamburg.de/users/afterglo/rpg/nontsr.html[/url] - all D&D licensed minis are detailed at Ernst Wilhelm's [url=http://www.dndlead.com/]The Miniature Art of Dungeons and Dragons[/url] [/QUOTE]
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