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<blockquote data-quote="Jacen" data-source="post: 3334953" data-attributes="member: 18654"><p>Still it makes perfect sense to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>And there are no rounds after the combat. So spell that lasts 20 rounds ends after the combat. It wouldn't matter it antoher ones starts in 10 secs after the first one. If you cont the non-existent rounds the spells are still in effect. And round is only a smaller time unit. Way to check time. </p><p></p><p> well, tough luck. That is the reason that it is called surprice round. </p><p></p><p> No, unless they know that there are enemies behind the door. They can go kicking doors every time and casting boost spells, but that sound can be heard at the next room, so the enemies there can hear tand get ready.</p><p></p><p> Yes. Nice that you got it. And wouldnt that be nice there to be another arventure group. And the kidnapped princess they were looking for. "What, fireball... nooooo..." </p><p></p><p> es it can if they doesn't succeed to open the door with one attempt. Then they notice that someone tried to come inside and react in time to act when the door opens with second attempt. </p><p></p><p>Yep, it can. But think that what is the surprice. Is surprise to do something that enemy doesn't know or something that surprisees them like door opening when they do not exept that.</p><p></p><p> So then it can't be opened as a surprise round. Didn't that give an standard action and not move a like? (splitting the hairs...) </p><p></p><p>But in my opinion. Something happens. Was that unexepted? If yes then those who knew that to happen aren't and those who didn't are. Opening the door is the thing that surprises monsters. All execpt the one that has duty to guard the door with drawn weapon. Then that is init for him and PC's. </p><p></p><p>But the difference in our points of views are that in my opinion opening the door surprises monsters in the room. In your opinion - well can't be sure, maybe the surprise is that the combat starts before enemy can see you. That is something that I would like you to clarify. What is the thing that surprises the enemy? </p><p></p><p>And kicking the door in is not automatic. Door has hardness and you have to make damage to it to break it in. If that doesn't break with one try then there will not be surprise. And trying to open locked door gives a spot/listen checks too. and why should the surprising thing gives checks to avoid the surprise? </p><p></p><p>And what comes to the swat team. The one who breaks the door usually has his hands full of door breaker - not weapons. So unprepared guy running in first is really a special tactics with special door breaking weapon in his hands.</p><p></p><p>And yes there are some sarcasm im my posts...</p><p></p><p>I might not be correct but all I said makes perfect sense to me and better sense than your theory.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jacen, post: 3334953, member: 18654"] Still it makes perfect sense to me. And there are no rounds after the combat. So spell that lasts 20 rounds ends after the combat. It wouldn't matter it antoher ones starts in 10 secs after the first one. If you cont the non-existent rounds the spells are still in effect. And round is only a smaller time unit. Way to check time. well, tough luck. That is the reason that it is called surprice round. No, unless they know that there are enemies behind the door. They can go kicking doors every time and casting boost spells, but that sound can be heard at the next room, so the enemies there can hear tand get ready. Yes. Nice that you got it. And wouldnt that be nice there to be another arventure group. And the kidnapped princess they were looking for. "What, fireball... nooooo..." es it can if they doesn't succeed to open the door with one attempt. Then they notice that someone tried to come inside and react in time to act when the door opens with second attempt. Yep, it can. But think that what is the surprice. Is surprise to do something that enemy doesn't know or something that surprisees them like door opening when they do not exept that. So then it can't be opened as a surprise round. Didn't that give an standard action and not move a like? (splitting the hairs...) But in my opinion. Something happens. Was that unexepted? If yes then those who knew that to happen aren't and those who didn't are. Opening the door is the thing that surprises monsters. All execpt the one that has duty to guard the door with drawn weapon. Then that is init for him and PC's. But the difference in our points of views are that in my opinion opening the door surprises monsters in the room. In your opinion - well can't be sure, maybe the surprise is that the combat starts before enemy can see you. That is something that I would like you to clarify. What is the thing that surprises the enemy? And kicking the door in is not automatic. Door has hardness and you have to make damage to it to break it in. If that doesn't break with one try then there will not be surprise. And trying to open locked door gives a spot/listen checks too. and why should the surprising thing gives checks to avoid the surprise? And what comes to the swat team. The one who breaks the door usually has his hands full of door breaker - not weapons. So unprepared guy running in first is really a special tactics with special door breaking weapon in his hands. And yes there are some sarcasm im my posts... I might not be correct but all I said makes perfect sense to me and better sense than your theory. [/QUOTE]
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