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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8760960" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>I'll be honest... most of the 3rd level Rogue subclass abilities do not give combat advantages. The few that do (like Assassin) have very specific ways and times to use them and they aren't used repeatedly. Especially a subclass like an Acrobat... a subclass whose narrative is not about fighting but about tumbling... I would be reticent to give it anything that would boost their combat ability in one of those 3rd level feature slots. Heck, even a swordfighting subclass like Swashbuckler only grants a new way to gain Sneak Attack but doesn't make your attacks themselves better.</p><p></p><p>Looking at both the abilities of the Thief and the ability of the Tabaxi... I don't even think the overlap is so great that you need to replace anything, personally. The Tabaxi feature is they can climb 20', the Thief feature is they can climbing does not cost extra movement (IE your climb speed is 30'). So the Tabaxi feature is the one that is "lost" by taking the Thief subclass. But then again... when you couple the other Tabaxi movement feature of being able to double your speed for a round... the Tabaxi is getting a climb speed essentially of 60' via movement in one round! I'd take that combo even if my "20' climb speed" from being a Tabaxi was superfluous.</p><p></p><p>And this doesn't even consider the fact that the Rogue can also use their Action * and * Bonus action to Dash-- thereby adding 60 feet more to their movement. Which means that depending on how you as DM rule on Feline Agility... this Tabaxi can either climb 120' in a single round (30' move doubled to 60' via F.Agility plus 30' for Dash Action plus 30' for Dash Bonus action)... or can climb <strong>180'</strong> in a single round if you are the type of DM that considers Dash actions to just increase your movement speed-- so it would be 30' move plus 30' Dash action plus 30' Dash Bonus action equals 90' in the round <em>doubled</em> via Feline Agility to 180' in a single climb.</p><p></p><p>No matter how you slice it... I think this Tabaxi with the Thief subclass will be fine. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8760960, member: 7006"] I'll be honest... most of the 3rd level Rogue subclass abilities do not give combat advantages. The few that do (like Assassin) have very specific ways and times to use them and they aren't used repeatedly. Especially a subclass like an Acrobat... a subclass whose narrative is not about fighting but about tumbling... I would be reticent to give it anything that would boost their combat ability in one of those 3rd level feature slots. Heck, even a swordfighting subclass like Swashbuckler only grants a new way to gain Sneak Attack but doesn't make your attacks themselves better. Looking at both the abilities of the Thief and the ability of the Tabaxi... I don't even think the overlap is so great that you need to replace anything, personally. The Tabaxi feature is they can climb 20', the Thief feature is they can climbing does not cost extra movement (IE your climb speed is 30'). So the Tabaxi feature is the one that is "lost" by taking the Thief subclass. But then again... when you couple the other Tabaxi movement feature of being able to double your speed for a round... the Tabaxi is getting a climb speed essentially of 60' via movement in one round! I'd take that combo even if my "20' climb speed" from being a Tabaxi was superfluous. And this doesn't even consider the fact that the Rogue can also use their Action * and * Bonus action to Dash-- thereby adding 60 feet more to their movement. Which means that depending on how you as DM rule on Feline Agility... this Tabaxi can either climb 120' in a single round (30' move doubled to 60' via F.Agility plus 30' for Dash Action plus 30' for Dash Bonus action)... or can climb [B]180'[/B] in a single round if you are the type of DM that considers Dash actions to just increase your movement speed-- so it would be 30' move plus 30' Dash action plus 30' Dash Bonus action equals 90' in the round [I]doubled[/I] via Feline Agility to 180' in a single climb. No matter how you slice it... I think this Tabaxi with the Thief subclass will be fine. :) [/QUOTE]
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