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<blockquote data-quote="Kichwas" data-source="post: 164254" data-attributes="member: 891"><p>RvW: Roe vs. Wade. Going any further on that reference will likely turn this into a massive flame war. That's the Supreme Court case that legalized abortion in the US.</p><p></p><p></p><p>D20 officially gives XP for surviving traps and other dangerous challenges. That's the precident involved for abortion.</p><p></p><p>The precident for pregnancy is both surviving a trap and going through a massive life changing and growing experience.</p><p></p><p>There is no need in the book to discuss anything. It can simply be presented as a series of trap DCs and CRs and modifiers to the DC based on health:</p><p></p><p><strong>Pregnancy and abortion for d20</strong></p><p>Here's some ultra rough rules (come up with on the spur of the moment).</p><p></p><p>Mother on good diet: +2</p><p>Mother on normal diet +0</p><p>Mother on poor diet: -2</p><p>Mother malnurished: -4</p><p>Mother in low stress environment: +2</p><p>Mother in normal environment: +0</p><p>Mother in high stress environment: -2</p><p>Also add Con bonus/penalty</p><p>Some other mods based on midwife assistance and magical aids.</p><p>(perhaps a midwife lets you take 10 on the roll)</p><p></p><p>Roll the DC monthly to check status of pregnancy. Use the 'lamaze/midwifery skill' which is a CON based class skill for all women (cross class for men, class for cleric and druid (and some experts)). Others can Aid in the check (the mid wife or mate for instance).</p><p></p><p>Heal gives a synergy bonus.</p><p></p><p>The CR is based on age of mother, as is the base DC.</p><p></p><p>[code][color=white]</p><p> CR DC</p><p>under 15: 2 12</p><p>15-25 : 1 8</p><p>25-30: 2 12</p><p>30-40: 3 16</p><p>40+: 4 20</p><p>[/color][/code]</p><p>(those DC numbers may need adjusting)</p><p>Modify age as appropriate for species, the above is human.</p><p></p><p>Failure causes 1d6 damage to the mother and child. Which could result in miscarraige (perhaps we assume the child has 1 hit point plus Con mod of mother for these purposes).</p><p>Failure also results in fort saves for both mother and child (DC as above).</p><p>A failed save for the child results in a permanent loss of 1d4 stat points.</p><p>A failed save for the mother results in a permanent loss of 1 point to Con or Str.</p><p></p><p>If a mother loses 2 stat points throughout a pregnancy it results in a misscarraige and her womb going barren.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Abortion:</p><p>Is a trap DC. 5 higher than the DCs for pregnancy above. Failure results in 1d6 immediate damage and 2d6 secondary 4 hours later.</p><p>The CR is also like that for pregnancy, as are the modifiers.</p><p>If the DC is failed a fort save at DC 15 is required; if it is failed the woman's womb goes barren.</p><p></p><p></p><p>XP is derived using the trap rules for a given CR.</p><p></p><p></p><p>These rules of course need refinement. For one thing they need some kind of modifiers to account for the variation in different trimesters of pregnancy. Off hand I don't recall which trimesters incur the greatest risks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kichwas, post: 164254, member: 891"] RvW: Roe vs. Wade. Going any further on that reference will likely turn this into a massive flame war. That's the Supreme Court case that legalized abortion in the US. D20 officially gives XP for surviving traps and other dangerous challenges. That's the precident involved for abortion. The precident for pregnancy is both surviving a trap and going through a massive life changing and growing experience. There is no need in the book to discuss anything. It can simply be presented as a series of trap DCs and CRs and modifiers to the DC based on health: [b]Pregnancy and abortion for d20[/b] Here's some ultra rough rules (come up with on the spur of the moment). Mother on good diet: +2 Mother on normal diet +0 Mother on poor diet: -2 Mother malnurished: -4 Mother in low stress environment: +2 Mother in normal environment: +0 Mother in high stress environment: -2 Also add Con bonus/penalty Some other mods based on midwife assistance and magical aids. (perhaps a midwife lets you take 10 on the roll) Roll the DC monthly to check status of pregnancy. Use the 'lamaze/midwifery skill' which is a CON based class skill for all women (cross class for men, class for cleric and druid (and some experts)). Others can Aid in the check (the mid wife or mate for instance). Heal gives a synergy bonus. The CR is based on age of mother, as is the base DC. [code][color=white] CR DC under 15: 2 12 15-25 : 1 8 25-30: 2 12 30-40: 3 16 40+: 4 20 [/color][/code] (those DC numbers may need adjusting) Modify age as appropriate for species, the above is human. Failure causes 1d6 damage to the mother and child. Which could result in miscarraige (perhaps we assume the child has 1 hit point plus Con mod of mother for these purposes). Failure also results in fort saves for both mother and child (DC as above). A failed save for the child results in a permanent loss of 1d4 stat points. A failed save for the mother results in a permanent loss of 1 point to Con or Str. If a mother loses 2 stat points throughout a pregnancy it results in a misscarraige and her womb going barren. Abortion: Is a trap DC. 5 higher than the DCs for pregnancy above. Failure results in 1d6 immediate damage and 2d6 secondary 4 hours later. The CR is also like that for pregnancy, as are the modifiers. If the DC is failed a fort save at DC 15 is required; if it is failed the woman's womb goes barren. XP is derived using the trap rules for a given CR. These rules of course need refinement. For one thing they need some kind of modifiers to account for the variation in different trimesters of pregnancy. Off hand I don't recall which trimesters incur the greatest risks. [/QUOTE]
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