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<blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 5209353" data-attributes="member: 834"><p>[sblock=Rules questions from Metavoid]</p><p></p><p></p><p>1-It's vs Enmies that start within 2 square then moves. No, the panther were hidden farther and then moved charge. If they were somehow invisible within 2 square, I would have given them +2 CA.</p><p></p><p>2 - You can't push an opponent toward you, by definition. A push has to move the target away. A pull would draw closer while a slide leaves you free to do what you want. </p><p></p><p>If you try to force move someone in a dangerous situation (any time he would take damage, at a minimum), the target gets an immediate save. If successful, the targets falls prone on the spot but the forced movement is cancelled. This would apply if you tried to push the crazy lady off the rock (She'd risk 1D10 fall damage).</p><p></p><p>I invite you to roll the save yourself when you create such a situation. </p><p>[/sblock]</p><p> </p><p>[sblock=Renquist]Actually, I don't think the panther is marked. The attack itself that you used does not mark and since you used your minor action to channel divine strenght, you had no action left for divine challenge.</p><p></p><p>Also, how did you make 1d20+10 for the attack? By your stats, it should be 1d20+6...</p><p></p><p>A roll of 12 is still a hit, though, vs AC 18 (-2) so it doesn't change anything.</p><p>[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Abigail]Swordburst isn't technically a melee attack, it's a close burst. </p><p></p><p>That means you don't need to test your will vs Undeniable Beauty for this attack.</p><p></p><p>But it ought to be +4 vs Reflex, not +5, according to your wiki.[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Dante]Your HS heal 6, not 7 hp.[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>The panther disappears out of thin air, only to reappear a short distance and pounce again. Nementah is grievously wounded by one of the panther.</p><p></p><p>The Swarm of ant is all over Abigail and the proud warrior is on the brink of unconsciousness.</p><p></p><p>The crazy lady lives up to her moniker and lays down a thunderous spell centered on her allied ants in the hope of stunning several heroes, but only Virgil ends up dazed.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Actions]</p><p>Fey panther:</p><p>Move: They both teleport away in a spot where they get a clear charge LOS and they pounce</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558909/" target="_blank">Charging Pounce 1<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />ante 2:Nementah (1d20+9+1=12, 1d6+4+1d6=16)</a></p><p>As you can see I forgot to request 2 rolls, so that's just vs Dante, miss</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558912/" target="_blank">Charging Pounce vs Nementah (1d20+9+1=22, 1d6+4+1d6=10)</a> hit</p><p></p><p>Thorn bushes</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558927/" target="_blank">1: Rocco 2:Nementah (1d20+5=14, 1d20+5=14)</a> miss Rocco, hit Nementah </p><p></p><p>Ant Swarm:</p><p>Move:Shifts TPL</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558933/" target="_blank">Swarm of Mandibles, vs Abigail AC (1d20+8=27, 1d6+3=5)</a> hit</p><p>AP;</p><p>[roll=Mal Malenkirk]#2558939[/roll]</p><p>BBCode<a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558939/" target="_blank">AP; same vs Abigail (1d20+8=10, 1d6+3=6)</a></p><p></p><p>Aura attacks:</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558940/" target="_blank">Basic Attack vs 1<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />ante 2:Rocco 3:Abigail 4:Virgil (1d20+8=9, 1d6+3=6, 1d20+8=18, 1d6+3=6, 1d20+8=22, 1d6+3=6, 1d20+8=15, 1d6+3=4)</a> Miss Rocco because of mark, hits Abigail (6) if she is still in the aura when she takes her turn.</p><p></p><p>Crazy Lady:</p><p>Thunderburst centered on the Antswarm, vs Fortitude</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558952/" target="_blank">Thunderburst, Area blast 1, 1:Rocco, 2<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />ante, 3:Abigail, 4:Virgil, 5:Antswarm (1d20+6=16, 1d8+2=5, 1d20+6=10, 1d8+2=3, 1d20+6=7, 1d8+2=3, 1d20+6=16, 1d8+2=3, 1d20+6=11, 1d8+2=10)</a> low, low scores! Hits only Virgil for 3...</p><p>[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>[sblock=S&S]</p><p>Crazy Lady: prone </p><p></p><p>Panther 1: 5/54 Marked (Rocco, curently using the green R token)</p><p>Panther 2: 29/54 -2 AC next turn for Ibram, Rocco and Nementah</p><p>Swarm: 54/88</p><p></p><p>Abigail: 13 (4) (3 ongoing, 6 aura) /27</p><p>Dante: 26 +5 (+2) /27 Ongoing 3 (save ends) </p><p>Ibram: 30 +4 /30 [10/11]</p><p>Nementah: 6/30</p><p>Renquist: 22 +4 /31</p><p>Rocco: 28 /37 </p><p>Virgil: 30/30 +1 </p><p></p><p></p><p>Blightborn Twig Blight</p><p>Perception 16</p><p>HP 1; a missed attack never damages a minion.</p><p>AC 15; Fortitude 11, Reflex 15, Will 13</p><p>OA: Claw (standard, at-will) Poison</p><p>+6 vs AC; 2 poison damage (3 poison damage with combat advantage).</p><p></p><p>Feyborn Ant Swarm</p><p>Senses Perception 16; low-light vision</p><p>HP 88; Bloodied 44</p><p>AC 18; Fortitude 15, Reflex 19, Will 16</p><p>Resist half damage from melee and ranged attacks; Vulnerable 5 against close and area attacks</p><p>OA: Swarm of Mandibles (standard, at-will) </p><p>+8 vs AC; 1d6+3 damage, and ongoing 3 damage (save ends).</p><p>Undeniable Beauty (immediate interrupt, when feyborn creature is targeted by a melee attack, at-will) </p><p>+5 vs Will; against the attacker; the attacker must target a different creature or end its attack.</p><p></p><p>Crazy Lady</p><p>Perception 13; low-light vision</p><p>HP 39; Bloodied 19</p><p>AC 18; Fortitude 13, Reflex 15, Will 15</p><p>OA Quarterstaff (standard, at-will) Weapon</p><p>+3 vs AC; 1d8+1 damage.</p><p>[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mal Malenkirk, post: 5209353, member: 834"] [sblock=Rules questions from Metavoid] 1-It's vs Enmies that start within 2 square then moves. No, the panther were hidden farther and then moved charge. If they were somehow invisible within 2 square, I would have given them +2 CA. 2 - You can't push an opponent toward you, by definition. A push has to move the target away. A pull would draw closer while a slide leaves you free to do what you want. If you try to force move someone in a dangerous situation (any time he would take damage, at a minimum), the target gets an immediate save. If successful, the targets falls prone on the spot but the forced movement is cancelled. This would apply if you tried to push the crazy lady off the rock (She'd risk 1D10 fall damage). I invite you to roll the save yourself when you create such a situation. [/sblock] [sblock=Renquist]Actually, I don't think the panther is marked. The attack itself that you used does not mark and since you used your minor action to channel divine strenght, you had no action left for divine challenge. Also, how did you make 1d20+10 for the attack? By your stats, it should be 1d20+6... A roll of 12 is still a hit, though, vs AC 18 (-2) so it doesn't change anything. [/sblock] [sblock=Abigail]Swordburst isn't technically a melee attack, it's a close burst. That means you don't need to test your will vs Undeniable Beauty for this attack. But it ought to be +4 vs Reflex, not +5, according to your wiki.[/sblock] [sblock=Dante]Your HS heal 6, not 7 hp.[/sblock] The panther disappears out of thin air, only to reappear a short distance and pounce again. Nementah is grievously wounded by one of the panther. The Swarm of ant is all over Abigail and the proud warrior is on the brink of unconsciousness. The crazy lady lives up to her moniker and lays down a thunderous spell centered on her allied ants in the hope of stunning several heroes, but only Virgil ends up dazed. [sblock=Actions] Fey panther: Move: They both teleport away in a spot where they get a clear charge LOS and they pounce [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558909/]Charging Pounce 1:Dante 2:Nementah (1d20+9+1=12, 1d6+4+1d6=16)[/url] As you can see I forgot to request 2 rolls, so that's just vs Dante, miss [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558912/]Charging Pounce vs Nementah (1d20+9+1=22, 1d6+4+1d6=10)[/url] hit Thorn bushes [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558927/]1: Rocco 2:Nementah (1d20+5=14, 1d20+5=14)[/url] miss Rocco, hit Nementah Ant Swarm: Move:Shifts TPL [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558933/]Swarm of Mandibles, vs Abigail AC (1d20+8=27, 1d6+3=5)[/url] hit AP; [roll=Mal Malenkirk]#2558939[/roll] BBCode[url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558939/]AP; same vs Abigail (1d20+8=10, 1d6+3=6)[/url] Aura attacks: [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558940/]Basic Attack vs 1:Dante 2:Rocco 3:Abigail 4:Virgil (1d20+8=9, 1d6+3=6, 1d20+8=18, 1d6+3=6, 1d20+8=22, 1d6+3=6, 1d20+8=15, 1d6+3=4)[/url] Miss Rocco because of mark, hits Abigail (6) if she is still in the aura when she takes her turn. Crazy Lady: Thunderburst centered on the Antswarm, vs Fortitude [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2558952/]Thunderburst, Area blast 1, 1:Rocco, 2:Dante, 3:Abigail, 4:Virgil, 5:Antswarm (1d20+6=16, 1d8+2=5, 1d20+6=10, 1d8+2=3, 1d20+6=7, 1d8+2=3, 1d20+6=16, 1d8+2=3, 1d20+6=11, 1d8+2=10)[/url] low, low scores! Hits only Virgil for 3... [/sblock] [sblock=S&S] Crazy Lady: prone Panther 1: 5/54 Marked (Rocco, curently using the green R token) Panther 2: 29/54 -2 AC next turn for Ibram, Rocco and Nementah Swarm: 54/88 Abigail: 13 (4) (3 ongoing, 6 aura) /27 Dante: 26 +5 (+2) /27 Ongoing 3 (save ends) Ibram: 30 +4 /30 [10/11] Nementah: 6/30 Renquist: 22 +4 /31 Rocco: 28 /37 Virgil: 30/30 +1 Blightborn Twig Blight Perception 16 HP 1; a missed attack never damages a minion. AC 15; Fortitude 11, Reflex 15, Will 13 OA: Claw (standard, at-will) Poison +6 vs AC; 2 poison damage (3 poison damage with combat advantage). Feyborn Ant Swarm Senses Perception 16; low-light vision HP 88; Bloodied 44 AC 18; Fortitude 15, Reflex 19, Will 16 Resist half damage from melee and ranged attacks; Vulnerable 5 against close and area attacks OA: Swarm of Mandibles (standard, at-will) +8 vs AC; 1d6+3 damage, and ongoing 3 damage (save ends). Undeniable Beauty (immediate interrupt, when feyborn creature is targeted by a melee attack, at-will) +5 vs Will; against the attacker; the attacker must target a different creature or end its attack. Crazy Lady Perception 13; low-light vision HP 39; Bloodied 19 AC 18; Fortitude 13, Reflex 15, Will 15 OA Quarterstaff (standard, at-will) Weapon +3 vs AC; 1d8+1 damage. [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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