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<blockquote data-quote="B4cchus" data-source="post: 3959653" data-attributes="member: 35026"><p>A more detailed breakdown of the class (and hopefully an explanation to wy this class is overpowered beyond measure).</p><p></p><p>Requirements.</p><p>The PrC requires someone to be able to cast divine spells.I don't really regard this as something difficult since the PrC is aimed at clerics.</p><p>Second, it requires 8 ranks in 1 skill: knowledge arcana or knowlede geogoraphy. This first is a class skill for clerics, the second one for most ther divine casters (rangers, druids). Only paladin's still have a really hard to to enter this PrC. For the rest, it's mostly capped to enter at level 6, no ral requirements.</p><p>With that this is one of the most easy PrC to enter in existance.</p><p></p><p>Skills.</p><p>The skills seem to be a mix of cleric and rogue skills. It has all the good rogue skills apart from the disable device and open lock. Especially tumble, spot, listen spring to my attention but the rest of the list isn't bad either.</p><p>Also, it has 4 skillpoints. That's better than the cleric.</p><p></p><p>BAB and Saves.</p><p>These are pretty much ok. Medium BAB and only one good save.</p><p></p><p>Spellcasting progression.</p><p>The PrC progresses spellcasting only at even levels. That's pretty harsh. The rest of the class should be pretty solid to get a cleric to give up half his caster progression. </p><p></p><p>So what does he get?</p><p>at level 1:</p><p>Bonus domain, +2 to one stat, +racial bonus to 2 skills.</p><p>Say what? </p><p>It takes a human paragon 3 levels to accieve this. And then he still doesn't get the bonus domain. But that's not all.</p><p>He ALSO get's darkvision,.</p><p>I think i'll have EVERY character I build form now on take exactly 1 level in this class. But there is more, so maybe I'll just build character's with this class.</p><p></p><p>At level 2 she get's a natuaral attack and one caster level increase. Not so broken compared to the rest of the levels.</p><p></p><p>At level 3 she get's to pick from this very nice list.</p><p>The most abilities mentioned in special quality list are better than feats, none is lesser than a feat. The ones that sprong out are: pounce, rage, poison (str damage poison all day long?!?) and damage reduction.</p><p></p><p>At level 4 she get's a feat. And a caster level. Take that you stupid eldritch knight! You alternate feats and caster level increases? I just took both!</p><p></p><p>At level 5, we enter we newfound level of brokenness: a + 4 bonus to one ability score! Also a -2 to another one but who cares about charisma anyway these days?</p><p>Also, another +2 bonus to 2 skills (so that untill now, every level effectvely gives more than a feat in abilities!)</p><p></p><p>On level 6, another caster level, and a special quality formt he list of ubermensch powers (still pushing that feat per level envelope. Take that dumb fighter!). </p><p></p><p>Level 7, as we have skyrocketed our ability scores gained several caster levels and all kinds of nifty abilities, it's about time to boost that AC! How about.. let's say +4 to natural armour? That still stacks with our fullplate so that's oughta do. Ok, the fullplate now costs x5 the prices but what the heck, a chainshirt (100gp, x5 = 500gp) now offers the same amount of protection, at lower cost, with lower ACP, with higher max dex and better movement (being light armor).</p><p>Oh, by the way, natural attack damage inceases. Not just for the monk anymore!</p><p></p><p>On to level 8 where we have to settle for just a caster level and a feat.</p><p></p><p>Level 9 is rather dull, with just a power from the nifty special qualities feat.</p><p></p><p>Then level 10, the grand finale: 1 she get's to choose one ability from ANY of the nifty abilities list! Also there is a new list that the character can choose from at point one. This includes several +1la abilities like inceased size, cast high levels spells (charm monster, mnenonic enhancer),</p><p>If she chooses from this new list she get's abother +6 to one ability score. </p><p>The "down" side is that she can "only" get a +8 ability to single score. Boohoo.</p><p>She ALSO get's +3 (+2 is for losers who take feats!) to 2 skills, </p><p>Also (doesn it end?) she can pick from the special qualities list.</p><p>Also the character can now create offspring with all the racial bonusses she recieved herself.</p><p></p><p>So what have we recieved in 10 levels?</p><p>A bonus domain</p><p>5 caster levels.</p><p>2 feats</p><p>+12 to ability scores</p><p>-6 to ability scores</p><p>+2 in 4 skills</p><p>+3 in 2 skills</p><p>4 special qualities</p><p>A natural attack</p><p>+4 natural armor</p><p>The ability to created overpowered offsrping.</p><p></p><p>Not bad. Not bas at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="B4cchus, post: 3959653, member: 35026"] A more detailed breakdown of the class (and hopefully an explanation to wy this class is overpowered beyond measure). Requirements. The PrC requires someone to be able to cast divine spells.I don't really regard this as something difficult since the PrC is aimed at clerics. Second, it requires 8 ranks in 1 skill: knowledge arcana or knowlede geogoraphy. This first is a class skill for clerics, the second one for most ther divine casters (rangers, druids). Only paladin's still have a really hard to to enter this PrC. For the rest, it's mostly capped to enter at level 6, no ral requirements. With that this is one of the most easy PrC to enter in existance. Skills. The skills seem to be a mix of cleric and rogue skills. It has all the good rogue skills apart from the disable device and open lock. Especially tumble, spot, listen spring to my attention but the rest of the list isn't bad either. Also, it has 4 skillpoints. That's better than the cleric. BAB and Saves. These are pretty much ok. Medium BAB and only one good save. Spellcasting progression. The PrC progresses spellcasting only at even levels. That's pretty harsh. The rest of the class should be pretty solid to get a cleric to give up half his caster progression. So what does he get? at level 1: Bonus domain, +2 to one stat, +racial bonus to 2 skills. Say what? It takes a human paragon 3 levels to accieve this. And then he still doesn't get the bonus domain. But that's not all. He ALSO get's darkvision,. I think i'll have EVERY character I build form now on take exactly 1 level in this class. But there is more, so maybe I'll just build character's with this class. At level 2 she get's a natuaral attack and one caster level increase. Not so broken compared to the rest of the levels. At level 3 she get's to pick from this very nice list. The most abilities mentioned in special quality list are better than feats, none is lesser than a feat. The ones that sprong out are: pounce, rage, poison (str damage poison all day long?!?) and damage reduction. At level 4 she get's a feat. And a caster level. Take that you stupid eldritch knight! You alternate feats and caster level increases? I just took both! At level 5, we enter we newfound level of brokenness: a + 4 bonus to one ability score! Also a -2 to another one but who cares about charisma anyway these days? Also, another +2 bonus to 2 skills (so that untill now, every level effectvely gives more than a feat in abilities!) On level 6, another caster level, and a special quality formt he list of ubermensch powers (still pushing that feat per level envelope. Take that dumb fighter!). Level 7, as we have skyrocketed our ability scores gained several caster levels and all kinds of nifty abilities, it's about time to boost that AC! How about.. let's say +4 to natural armour? That still stacks with our fullplate so that's oughta do. Ok, the fullplate now costs x5 the prices but what the heck, a chainshirt (100gp, x5 = 500gp) now offers the same amount of protection, at lower cost, with lower ACP, with higher max dex and better movement (being light armor). Oh, by the way, natural attack damage inceases. Not just for the monk anymore! On to level 8 where we have to settle for just a caster level and a feat. Level 9 is rather dull, with just a power from the nifty special qualities feat. Then level 10, the grand finale: 1 she get's to choose one ability from ANY of the nifty abilities list! Also there is a new list that the character can choose from at point one. This includes several +1la abilities like inceased size, cast high levels spells (charm monster, mnenonic enhancer), If she chooses from this new list she get's abother +6 to one ability score. The "down" side is that she can "only" get a +8 ability to single score. Boohoo. She ALSO get's +3 (+2 is for losers who take feats!) to 2 skills, Also (doesn it end?) she can pick from the special qualities list. Also the character can now create offspring with all the racial bonusses she recieved herself. So what have we recieved in 10 levels? A bonus domain 5 caster levels. 2 feats +12 to ability scores -6 to ability scores +2 in 4 skills +3 in 2 skills 4 special qualities A natural attack +4 natural armor The ability to created overpowered offsrping. Not bad. Not bas at all. [/QUOTE]
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