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<blockquote data-quote="Ristamar" data-source="post: 7497804" data-attributes="member: 1207"><p>I think that's an interesting line of discussion.</p><p></p><p>The one glaring difference between knowing the results of an attack roll versus a sensory based skill like Perception or Insight is direct, observable results in the case of failure. </p><p></p><p>If I swing a sword at someone as part of what would normally be an excellent attack (a high roll) yet I still miss, I know my target is either very nimble or heavily armored or protected by some other means evident via the DM's narration of the attack roll result. If I fail to perceive a possible threat via a Perception check, I have no feedback by which to judge my effort. </p><p></p><p>The lack of feedback in sensory-based checks is another reason I believe passive scores are an excellent tool. If nothing else, they provide a consistent standard as a reliable data point.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: I see this same discussion is already happening in another thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ristamar, post: 7497804, member: 1207"] I think that's an interesting line of discussion. The one glaring difference between knowing the results of an attack roll versus a sensory based skill like Perception or Insight is direct, observable results in the case of failure. If I swing a sword at someone as part of what would normally be an excellent attack (a high roll) yet I still miss, I know my target is either very nimble or heavily armored or protected by some other means evident via the DM's narration of the attack roll result. If I fail to perceive a possible threat via a Perception check, I have no feedback by which to judge my effort. The lack of feedback in sensory-based checks is another reason I believe passive scores are an excellent tool. If nothing else, they provide a consistent standard as a reliable data point. EDIT: I see this same discussion is already happening in another thread. [/QUOTE]
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