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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8922790" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>The obligation in respect of product identity appears to me to be part of the terms of the licence, and thus to apply in respect of every upstream party from whom the licensee enjoys a licence. Which is, I think, everyone in the section 15 statement - because if you're not receiving a licence in respect of their work, then what are they doing in there?</p><p></p><p>EDIT: A quirk of the OGL system is that section 15s can get needlessly bloated.</p><p></p><p>Eg, suppose that W licences X to A, who builds Y out of X; and licences X to B, who builds Z out of X; and then C publishes a work that includes Q derived from Y, and R derived from Z. So C's section 15 identifies W, A and B.</p><p></p><p>Now D publishes a work that builds on R. In principle, D not not need a licence from A, as only W, B and C have an interest in respect of R. But D does need a licence from C. And under the OGL mechanism, D will therefore list all of C's section 15, including A.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there's a straightforward workaround for this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8922790, member: 42582"] The obligation in respect of product identity appears to me to be part of the terms of the licence, and thus to apply in respect of every upstream party from whom the licensee enjoys a licence. Which is, I think, everyone in the section 15 statement - because if you're not receiving a licence in respect of their work, then what are they doing in there? EDIT: A quirk of the OGL system is that section 15s can get needlessly bloated. Eg, suppose that W licences X to A, who builds Y out of X; and licences X to B, who builds Z out of X; and then C publishes a work that includes Q derived from Y, and R derived from Z. So C's section 15 identifies W, A and B. Now D publishes a work that builds on R. In principle, D not not need a licence from A, as only W, B and C have an interest in respect of R. But D does need a licence from C. And under the OGL mechanism, D will therefore list all of C's section 15, including A. I don't think there's a straightforward workaround for this. [/QUOTE]
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