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<blockquote data-quote="WisdomLikeSilence" data-source="post: 920391" data-attributes="member: 3676"><p>That’s the problem. Nothing is explicit. Things are only implied, or hinted at, and that makes it really hard to post quotes. It’s also the reason we’re having this whole discussion. If they’d just stated things either way there would be no room for disagreement. As you know, though, that’s not the way things always work in Buffy….</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You probably already know about this, but there is a great script site for Buffy. Check out <a href="http://www.studiesinwords.de/shooting/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.studiesinwords.de/shooting/index.html</a></p><p> That’s where I pulled the following.</p><p></p><p>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>></p><p></p><p>INT. SPIKE'S CRYPT - NIGHT</p><p>The door to Spike's crypt crashes open. Spike bursts in (sans leather coat). Anger, humiliation, and regret swirl across his tormented face.</p><p>INT. BUFFY'S BATHROOM - FLASHBACK (ALREADY SHOT)</p><p>Spike has Buffy on the floor against the bathtub. Her face is twisted in pain as she tries to push Spike away.</p><p>INT. SPIKE'S CRYPT - CONTINUOUS</p><p>Spike clenches his eyes closed, attempting to shut out the incriminating images flashing through his mind.</p><p>INT. BUFFY'S BATHROOM - FLASHBACK (ALREADY SHOT)</p><p>Buffy is on the floor. Spike brutally pins her down.</p><p>INT. SPIKE'S CRYPT - CONTINUOUS</p><p>Spike's eyes snap open. He can't shake the images of the attack. He stalks over to his alcohol stash, pours a glass of vodka with trembling hands and raises it to his lips.</p><p>INT. BUFFY'S BATHROOM - FLASHBACK (ALREADY SHOT)</p><p>TIGHT ON BUFFY, in agony, as Spike tries to rip open her bathrobe.</p><p>INT. SPIKE'S CRYPT - CONTINUOUS</p><p>Spike explodes, his emotions boiling over. He crushes the glass of vodka in his hand. He stands there seething, at war with himself.</p><p></p><p>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that, based on what I saw, I did and do believe it. I didn’t realize until this discussion how hard it is to point to the specifics, but the totality of the episode did leave me certain that Spike wanted his soul back. And I pulled that from lots of little touches in the episode and the season.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It worked for me, although not perfectly. It didn’t work for you. We both watch the show pretty carefully. That’s why we’re not going to be able to change each other’s mind. We’ll just have to wait for season six to come out on DVD and see if the commentaries resolve the whole intention/mistake issue.</p><p></p><p>Ooh—Season four is almost out…. Almost time to go watch more Buffy….</p><p></p><p>-WLS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WisdomLikeSilence, post: 920391, member: 3676"] That’s the problem. Nothing is explicit. Things are only implied, or hinted at, and that makes it really hard to post quotes. It’s also the reason we’re having this whole discussion. If they’d just stated things either way there would be no room for disagreement. As you know, though, that’s not the way things always work in Buffy…. You probably already know about this, but there is a great script site for Buffy. Check out [url]http://www.studiesinwords.de/shooting/index.html[/url] That’s where I pulled the following. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INT. SPIKE'S CRYPT - NIGHT The door to Spike's crypt crashes open. Spike bursts in (sans leather coat). Anger, humiliation, and regret swirl across his tormented face. INT. BUFFY'S BATHROOM - FLASHBACK (ALREADY SHOT) Spike has Buffy on the floor against the bathtub. Her face is twisted in pain as she tries to push Spike away. INT. SPIKE'S CRYPT - CONTINUOUS Spike clenches his eyes closed, attempting to shut out the incriminating images flashing through his mind. INT. BUFFY'S BATHROOM - FLASHBACK (ALREADY SHOT) Buffy is on the floor. Spike brutally pins her down. INT. SPIKE'S CRYPT - CONTINUOUS Spike's eyes snap open. He can't shake the images of the attack. He stalks over to his alcohol stash, pours a glass of vodka with trembling hands and raises it to his lips. INT. BUFFY'S BATHROOM - FLASHBACK (ALREADY SHOT) TIGHT ON BUFFY, in agony, as Spike tries to rip open her bathrobe. INT. SPIKE'S CRYPT - CONTINUOUS Spike explodes, his emotions boiling over. He crushes the glass of vodka in his hand. He stands there seething, at war with himself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Except that, based on what I saw, I did and do believe it. I didn’t realize until this discussion how hard it is to point to the specifics, but the totality of the episode did leave me certain that Spike wanted his soul back. And I pulled that from lots of little touches in the episode and the season. It worked for me, although not perfectly. It didn’t work for you. We both watch the show pretty carefully. That’s why we’re not going to be able to change each other’s mind. We’ll just have to wait for season six to come out on DVD and see if the commentaries resolve the whole intention/mistake issue. Ooh—Season four is almost out…. Almost time to go watch more Buffy…. -WLS [/QUOTE]
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