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<blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 5654011" data-attributes="member: 40109"><p>The ability to understand <em>all</em> languages is irrelevant. I have no idea why you're even bringing it up.</p><p> </p><p>I hope I've made it clear that such magical beasts would be valid subjects for the Handle Animal skill. You know, non-animals with an Intelligence score of 1 or 2 and all that...?</p><p> </p><p>I wouldn't call the Handle Animal skill a "form of communication." I imagine it working just like me training my dog (in real life) to come when I call his name, or whistle in a certain way, etc. If you think me whistling and my dog coming to me is us "communicating," okay. Maybe it is. But what's your point?</p><p> </p><p>The <em>Draconomicon</em> helps prove my case, actually.</p><p> </p><p>Note that before any kind of Handle Animal check can be made, you must first succeed on a <em>Diplomacy</em> check. That alone makes it clear that what is happening is something different than simply training some poor, dumb beast to do what you want. There is (as I alluded to above) some kind of <em>persuasion</em> that has to occur; the dragon has to <em>agree</em> to be trained.</p><p> </p><p>More importantly, the fact that the <em>Draconomicon</em> says the Handle Animal skill should be used <em>even though</em> dragons are intelligent actually acknowledges that you don't normally use Handle Animal that way; it's a specific exception to a general rule.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vegepygmy, post: 5654011, member: 40109"] The ability to understand [I]all[/I] languages is irrelevant. I have no idea why you're even bringing it up. I hope I've made it clear that such magical beasts would be valid subjects for the Handle Animal skill. You know, non-animals with an Intelligence score of 1 or 2 and all that...? I wouldn't call the Handle Animal skill a "form of communication." I imagine it working just like me training my dog (in real life) to come when I call his name, or whistle in a certain way, etc. If you think me whistling and my dog coming to me is us "communicating," okay. Maybe it is. But what's your point? The [I]Draconomicon[/I] helps prove my case, actually. Note that before any kind of Handle Animal check can be made, you must first succeed on a [I]Diplomacy[/I] check. That alone makes it clear that what is happening is something different than simply training some poor, dumb beast to do what you want. There is (as I alluded to above) some kind of [I]persuasion[/I] that has to occur; the dragon has to [I]agree[/I] to be trained. More importantly, the fact that the [I]Draconomicon[/I] says the Handle Animal skill should be used [I]even though[/I] dragons are intelligent actually acknowledges that you don't normally use Handle Animal that way; it's a specific exception to a general rule. [/QUOTE]
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