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<blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 5654189" data-attributes="member: 40109"><p>Not being able to understand <em>all</em> languages is not the same as being unable to understand <em>any</em> language. All creatures with an Intelligence of 3 or greater understand at least one language (usually Common). <u>Monster Manual, page 7</u>. But yeah, if you want to communicate with a creature that understands only Elven (for example), you may have to learn Elven. What's that got to do with anything?</p><p> </p><p>Right. And the Handle Animal skill allows one to train an animal to "communicate" (or at least receive communications) in such crude ways.</p><p> </p><p>Have you understood something I've said as <em>requiring</em> a "relevant language" to be shared by both an animal and its trainer? If so, you've completely misunderstood me.</p><p> </p><p>That is incorrect. <em>All</em> mounts with an Intelligence score of 5 or greater must be negotiated with (using Diplomacy) to determine what the mount will and will not do. <u>Dungeon Master's Guide, page 205</u>: "Once the character and mount <em>reach an agreement,</em> they still must train together."*</p><p> </p><p>It specifically notes no such thing. What the Monster Manual says is: "To be trained, a pegasus must have a friendly attitude toward the trainer (this can be achieved through a successful Diplomacy check)." Nowhere does it say that the required Diplomacy check is <em>only</em> to affect the pegasus's attitude; it simply says that a pegasus won't agree to be trained <em>at all</em> if it doesn't like you.</p><p> </p><p>I'm not sure you understand what "negative reinforcement" actually is.</p><p> </p><p>No dog <em>wants</em> to be trained; they're too stupid to understand the concept. That's why you have to <em>train</em> them; because you can't <em>persuade</em> them to do what you want.</p><p> </p><p>* It is worth mentioning, however, that this rule could be interpreted to support Sekhmet's position that such a creature can be "war-trained." Of course, that still wouldn't make the creature proficient in any kind of armor, since only animals gain armor proficiencies by virtue of being "trained for war," and any animal whose Intelligence increases above 2 is no longer an animal, but a magical beast.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vegepygmy, post: 5654189, member: 40109"] Not being able to understand [I]all[/I] languages is not the same as being unable to understand [I]any[/I] language. All creatures with an Intelligence of 3 or greater understand at least one language (usually Common). [U]Monster Manual, page 7[/U]. But yeah, if you want to communicate with a creature that understands only Elven (for example), you may have to learn Elven. What's that got to do with anything? Right. And the Handle Animal skill allows one to train an animal to "communicate" (or at least receive communications) in such crude ways. Have you understood something I've said as [I]requiring[/I] a "relevant language" to be shared by both an animal and its trainer? If so, you've completely misunderstood me. That is incorrect. [I]All[/I] mounts with an Intelligence score of 5 or greater must be negotiated with (using Diplomacy) to determine what the mount will and will not do. [U]Dungeon Master's Guide, page 205[/U]: "Once the character and mount [I]reach an agreement,[/I] they still must train together."* It specifically notes no such thing. What the Monster Manual says is: "To be trained, a pegasus must have a friendly attitude toward the trainer (this can be achieved through a successful Diplomacy check)." Nowhere does it say that the required Diplomacy check is [I]only[/I] to affect the pegasus's attitude; it simply says that a pegasus won't agree to be trained [I]at all[/I] if it doesn't like you. I'm not sure you understand what "negative reinforcement" actually is. No dog [I]wants[/I] to be trained; they're too stupid to understand the concept. That's why you have to [I]train[/I] them; because you can't [I]persuade[/I] them to do what you want. * It is worth mentioning, however, that this rule could be interpreted to support Sekhmet's position that such a creature can be "war-trained." Of course, that still wouldn't make the creature proficient in any kind of armor, since only animals gain armor proficiencies by virtue of being "trained for war," and any animal whose Intelligence increases above 2 is no longer an animal, but a magical beast. [/QUOTE]
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