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<blockquote data-quote="Talonblaze" data-source="post: 5654303" data-attributes="member: 6680256"><p>Mostly the problem of conveying what is required of the task. Granted the MM assumes its Common as the default with an Int score of 3 or more (which can be helpful or hindering depending on the race). But let's say in the event you don't have 'Elven' in this instance. How are you, going to convince a beast that only knows such to do as you command? Be it in a peaceful manner or not. Diplomacy is <em>almost</em> useless without shared languages.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah but magical beasts, dragons and other forms of creatures aren't animals. (By most's definition in terms of creature type), why would one require a Handle Animal to train with them? Why not just use Diplomacy or other social skill to interact with them since they are regarded as a higher form? Just because it all of a sudden CAN speak a language what does that change exactly? A parrot can speak, but its Int remains at 2. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Now I wonder why it notes Int 5 or more instead of 3 or more, since apparently that is the mental capacity to speak or understand a language is it not? Isn't an Int of 3 just as capable? Why would they rule out such capabilities? An Int of 3 should be enough for an animal to understand and agree to what its being asked to do, no?</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>That's exactly all Diplomacy does, especially in that RAW situation for the Pegasus. The Diplomacy is to make it friendly, rather than indifferent or hostile. Otherwise training it is pointless. The same is for any hostile creature. It has to be friendly before it can train, regardless of how its done.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>You just have to persuade them in a different manner. Not necessarily the same traditional vocal methods. </p><p></p><p>As interesting as it is, the MM says magical beasts are 'like' animals but 'can' have an intelligence higher than 2. However, an animal that has an Int of 3 doesn't just suddenly get improved attack, better hit die, abilities and whatnot out of its yahoo for something a parrot can do.</p><p></p><p>Albiet, the Int score would put them over the known standard limit of 'tricks' I don't necessarily think that all of a sudden puts them out of Animal Companion range due to such. Otherwise every enemy wizard would 'curse' a Druid's companion with intelligence so they lose all their special buffs they no longer qualify for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Talonblaze, post: 5654303, member: 6680256"] Mostly the problem of conveying what is required of the task. Granted the MM assumes its Common as the default with an Int score of 3 or more (which can be helpful or hindering depending on the race). But let's say in the event you don't have 'Elven' in this instance. How are you, going to convince a beast that only knows such to do as you command? Be it in a peaceful manner or not. Diplomacy is [I]almost[/I] useless without shared languages. Ah but magical beasts, dragons and other forms of creatures aren't animals. (By most's definition in terms of creature type), why would one require a Handle Animal to train with them? Why not just use Diplomacy or other social skill to interact with them since they are regarded as a higher form? Just because it all of a sudden CAN speak a language what does that change exactly? A parrot can speak, but its Int remains at 2. Now I wonder why it notes Int 5 or more instead of 3 or more, since apparently that is the mental capacity to speak or understand a language is it not? Isn't an Int of 3 just as capable? Why would they rule out such capabilities? An Int of 3 should be enough for an animal to understand and agree to what its being asked to do, no? That's exactly all Diplomacy does, especially in that RAW situation for the Pegasus. The Diplomacy is to make it friendly, rather than indifferent or hostile. Otherwise training it is pointless. The same is for any hostile creature. It has to be friendly before it can train, regardless of how its done. You just have to persuade them in a different manner. Not necessarily the same traditional vocal methods. As interesting as it is, the MM says magical beasts are 'like' animals but 'can' have an intelligence higher than 2. However, an animal that has an Int of 3 doesn't just suddenly get improved attack, better hit die, abilities and whatnot out of its yahoo for something a parrot can do. Albiet, the Int score would put them over the known standard limit of 'tricks' I don't necessarily think that all of a sudden puts them out of Animal Companion range due to such. Otherwise every enemy wizard would 'curse' a Druid's companion with intelligence so they lose all their special buffs they no longer qualify for. [/QUOTE]
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