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<blockquote data-quote="Bront" data-source="post: 2909040" data-attributes="member: 19696"><p>Dualist and Shadowdancer are Level 8 entries in the SRD (You can do Dualist at 7 with a Swashbuckler, but not with Core), and there are others that are even higher. 6th level being your first in a PrC seems to be a common theme, but it's not wholely true, and there are several that make you wait till 8th, 11th, or even higher (Archmage, Thaumaturgist). 8th may seem out of reach in LEW, but I've had 3 characters make 3rd level in less than a year, and we have several 5th and 8th level characters here already.</p><p></p><p>Dedicated Hunter allows the Ranger/Paladin multi-class freely. Hense, it's requirement (which also means you need some Ranger in this PrC).</p><p></p><p>I like the Good Alligned idea, perhaps roll that into Holy Enemy, aligning the weapon as good vs any Holy Enemy? It gives the ability a bit more flavor (instead of, admittedly, a cheep favored enemy knock off).</p><p></p><p>The problem with +2 with Holy Enemy is this: that's +18 over 10 levels, max of +10 vs one enemy, plus it stacks with smite damage (another 10 at 20th level), and regular Favored Enemy (max of +6 given this combo) for +26 damage on one hit, and +16 damage on each additional strike. Holy Enemy is constant, and the condensed levels make it more powerful (You'll max it out before Ranger). Also, combined with spellcasting, the bonus feats, and the other abilities, it throws the rest of the class out of wack.</p><p></p><p>I will say that I never proposed it with +2, but I did think about it initialy. It just seemed a bit over the top for me. I like the good aligned for damage resistance vs Holy Enemies though.</p><p></p><p>And yes, I will fully admit, Jaan inspired me to create this, but it seemed like an interesting concept, and realy, there are no good paladin PrCs out there (Perhaps the Outrider, if it were to allow paladins to Multi-class from it)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bront, post: 2909040, member: 19696"] Dualist and Shadowdancer are Level 8 entries in the SRD (You can do Dualist at 7 with a Swashbuckler, but not with Core), and there are others that are even higher. 6th level being your first in a PrC seems to be a common theme, but it's not wholely true, and there are several that make you wait till 8th, 11th, or even higher (Archmage, Thaumaturgist). 8th may seem out of reach in LEW, but I've had 3 characters make 3rd level in less than a year, and we have several 5th and 8th level characters here already. Dedicated Hunter allows the Ranger/Paladin multi-class freely. Hense, it's requirement (which also means you need some Ranger in this PrC). I like the Good Alligned idea, perhaps roll that into Holy Enemy, aligning the weapon as good vs any Holy Enemy? It gives the ability a bit more flavor (instead of, admittedly, a cheep favored enemy knock off). The problem with +2 with Holy Enemy is this: that's +18 over 10 levels, max of +10 vs one enemy, plus it stacks with smite damage (another 10 at 20th level), and regular Favored Enemy (max of +6 given this combo) for +26 damage on one hit, and +16 damage on each additional strike. Holy Enemy is constant, and the condensed levels make it more powerful (You'll max it out before Ranger). Also, combined with spellcasting, the bonus feats, and the other abilities, it throws the rest of the class out of wack. I will say that I never proposed it with +2, but I did think about it initialy. It just seemed a bit over the top for me. I like the good aligned for damage resistance vs Holy Enemies though. And yes, I will fully admit, Jaan inspired me to create this, but it seemed like an interesting concept, and realy, there are no good paladin PrCs out there (Perhaps the Outrider, if it were to allow paladins to Multi-class from it) [/QUOTE]
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