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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 4867455" data-attributes="member: 40359"><p>As I pointed out in the blog comments, as a matter of fact Paizo values PDF at 70% of printed price. Green Ronin values them at 55%. Malhavoc at generally 57%.</p><p></p><p>Now, those are publishers, but they are also successful publishers and Green Ronin and Paizo at least have pretty stable PDF prices, so (this is a logic leap due to a lack of sales info) I would presume they are happy with their PDF sales. So, when looking for actual facts, I'd say that the market valuing PDFs in the 55-65% of print price range is probably pretty accurate and stable.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I was surprised at how strongly Erik came on as well, but to be fair James didn't just say that he didn't like Paizo's approach, he claimed that the PFRPG PDF was going to start a "Race to Zero" and pretty much decimate the PDF market. That seems a fair bit more harsh than "I don't like it". If someone accused your company and their biggest project in years as the harbinger of doom to an entire market, well, I can understand some emotion from Erik.</p><p></p><p>It's also an utterly unfounded argument. As I probably rambled too long in response to his 2nd post, he's looking at a single data point and claiming it's the beginning of a trend, while ignoring the overall stability of PDF to print pricing across years and dozens of products. </p><p></p><p>Not only is it bad statistics, but it's also bad logic. And having gotten half way to a PhD in philosophy, bad logic hurts me. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 4867455, member: 40359"] As I pointed out in the blog comments, as a matter of fact Paizo values PDF at 70% of printed price. Green Ronin values them at 55%. Malhavoc at generally 57%. Now, those are publishers, but they are also successful publishers and Green Ronin and Paizo at least have pretty stable PDF prices, so (this is a logic leap due to a lack of sales info) I would presume they are happy with their PDF sales. So, when looking for actual facts, I'd say that the market valuing PDFs in the 55-65% of print price range is probably pretty accurate and stable. Well, I was surprised at how strongly Erik came on as well, but to be fair James didn't just say that he didn't like Paizo's approach, he claimed that the PFRPG PDF was going to start a "Race to Zero" and pretty much decimate the PDF market. That seems a fair bit more harsh than "I don't like it". If someone accused your company and their biggest project in years as the harbinger of doom to an entire market, well, I can understand some emotion from Erik. It's also an utterly unfounded argument. As I probably rambled too long in response to his 2nd post, he's looking at a single data point and claiming it's the beginning of a trend, while ignoring the overall stability of PDF to print pricing across years and dozens of products. Not only is it bad statistics, but it's also bad logic. And having gotten half way to a PhD in philosophy, bad logic hurts me. ;) [/QUOTE]
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