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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7322363" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I actually didn't count it at all towards fighting (I did include the thief) because I was talking about Basic D&D and not just OD&D. So really, I should have said 4 1/2 to 2 1/2</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>You're</em> doing that by your ratio, so don't blame someone else for how you are classifying them. I certainly don't agree with that premis, but even if I use your set of standards, it's still not a convincing argument, because...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>BECMI wasn't the first to have race as class officially. I know it was also in B/X, and I don't have the Holmes version in front of me to see if it was there too.</p><p></p><p>Your statement was that D&D was never not about high magic and used OD&D's class ratio as a way to illustrate that. But you ignored the longest running and best selling version of D&D that had more non magical classes than magical ones. IMO, if you're gonna say D&D has never been low magic and use class ratios as a reason, then it's a pretty weak argument since the longest running and best selling version of D&D ever had more non magical classes than magical ones. You're gonna need some other form of supporting data for that particular argument. Because I can (and did) basically just say, "I see your OD&D, and raise you one Basic D&D that proves the opposite and is the most popular and longest running edition of the game."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7322363, member: 15700"] I actually didn't count it at all towards fighting (I did include the thief) because I was talking about Basic D&D and not just OD&D. So really, I should have said 4 1/2 to 2 1/2 [I]You're[/I] doing that by your ratio, so don't blame someone else for how you are classifying them. I certainly don't agree with that premis, but even if I use your set of standards, it's still not a convincing argument, because... BECMI wasn't the first to have race as class officially. I know it was also in B/X, and I don't have the Holmes version in front of me to see if it was there too. Your statement was that D&D was never not about high magic and used OD&D's class ratio as a way to illustrate that. But you ignored the longest running and best selling version of D&D that had more non magical classes than magical ones. IMO, if you're gonna say D&D has never been low magic and use class ratios as a reason, then it's a pretty weak argument since the longest running and best selling version of D&D ever had more non magical classes than magical ones. You're gonna need some other form of supporting data for that particular argument. Because I can (and did) basically just say, "I see your OD&D, and raise you one Basic D&D that proves the opposite and is the most popular and longest running edition of the game." [/QUOTE]
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