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<blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 6567428" data-attributes="member: 70"><p>This, basically. My focal point tends to be the story <em>Culhwch & Olwen</em>, from the Welsh <em>Mabinogion</em>. It's believed to be a 13th C. copy of an older tale. It's both amazing and disjointed, but notably (to me) is Arthur's almost complete lack of character. The first half of the adventures - the only ones really described - belong to Cei (Kay) and Bedwyr (Bedivere), and their companions. Then, suddenly, Cei parts ways with Arthur, and the rest of the story gets very dry as Arthur and his court complete the list of tasks. </p><p></p><p>The poem fragment known as <em>Pa Gur</em> is also interesting, because it also features Arthur, Cei, and Bedwyr. Arthur is seeking admittance to a hall ("Pa gur yv y porthaur?/"What man is the gatekeeper?"), and recounts the deeds of his most renowned followers: Cei and Bedwyr. Arthur's deeds don't come into play; it's almost entirely Cei who is the doer of deeds and slayer of men). To my eyes, Arthur's presence in the stories is very much a device for linking multiple stories, and the identity of Arthur is the latest incarnation of "the high king"; not a historical presence inasmuch as a fictional creation that gathers others together.</p><p></p><p>This doesn't mean that there wasn't a historical Arthur. Someone was the kernal of the idea, but the feats and deeds he accomplishes are later additions from other stories.</p><p></p><p>(Culhwch & Olwen names five recognizable Arthurian personages: Arthur, Guinevere, Gawain, Cei, and Bedwyr. Gawain is a stalwart warrior/knight; Bedwyr is Cei's constant companion, a one-handed spear fighter as fast as lightning; and Cei is the unstoppable force imbued with magical powers. He's also a very dirty fighter who absolutely does not fit into the "chivalrous" mode of thinking, which is suggested as one likely reason for his transformation in the Continental versions of the story that became the norm.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nellisir, post: 6567428, member: 70"] This, basically. My focal point tends to be the story [I]Culhwch & Olwen[/I], from the Welsh [I]Mabinogion[/I]. It's believed to be a 13th C. copy of an older tale. It's both amazing and disjointed, but notably (to me) is Arthur's almost complete lack of character. The first half of the adventures - the only ones really described - belong to Cei (Kay) and Bedwyr (Bedivere), and their companions. Then, suddenly, Cei parts ways with Arthur, and the rest of the story gets very dry as Arthur and his court complete the list of tasks. The poem fragment known as [I]Pa Gur[/I] is also interesting, because it also features Arthur, Cei, and Bedwyr. Arthur is seeking admittance to a hall ("Pa gur yv y porthaur?/"What man is the gatekeeper?"), and recounts the deeds of his most renowned followers: Cei and Bedwyr. Arthur's deeds don't come into play; it's almost entirely Cei who is the doer of deeds and slayer of men). To my eyes, Arthur's presence in the stories is very much a device for linking multiple stories, and the identity of Arthur is the latest incarnation of "the high king"; not a historical presence inasmuch as a fictional creation that gathers others together. This doesn't mean that there wasn't a historical Arthur. Someone was the kernal of the idea, but the feats and deeds he accomplishes are later additions from other stories. (Culhwch & Olwen names five recognizable Arthurian personages: Arthur, Guinevere, Gawain, Cei, and Bedwyr. Gawain is a stalwart warrior/knight; Bedwyr is Cei's constant companion, a one-handed spear fighter as fast as lightning; and Cei is the unstoppable force imbued with magical powers. He's also a very dirty fighter who absolutely does not fit into the "chivalrous" mode of thinking, which is suggested as one likely reason for his transformation in the Continental versions of the story that became the norm.) [/QUOTE]
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