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<blockquote data-quote="MarkB" data-source="post: 8868961" data-attributes="member: 40176"><p>AIs aren't going to have wants or needs anything like those of humans because our wants and needs are based on a whole host of things that we either can't or won't build into the design of an AGI:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A blind-idiot evolved processing system that combines very sophisticated neural networking with brute-force chemical triggers.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Millions of years' worth of evolved instincts and stimulus-responses, most of which were hard-coded long before we achieved actual intelligence and are therefore not designed to serve the needs of thinking beings.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A very specific set of sensory systems, none of which an AI will share with us one-for-one, whose inputs are not presented to our conscious mind unfiltered but instead are processed through subsystems with thousands of built-in biases and pattern-processing quirks and techniques.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A whole meat body that requires constant maintenance and management, to which much of our brain is dedicated without any conscious thought on our part, and whose needs impact our decision-making in thousands of subtle ways we're barely consciously aware of.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Well over a decade of neurological training through interaction with other members of our species, shaping our goals, attitudes, beliefs and values through mechanisms we still don't fully understand.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A basic but powerful sense of self-preservation that's the culmination of hundreds of millions of years of our ancestors being the ones who survived, prospered and procreated to breed the next generation.</li> </ul><p>What we get if we build a thinking being that doesn't incorporate any of these things, or which incorporates our own flawed impressions of them, is basically anyone's guess.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MarkB, post: 8868961, member: 40176"] AIs aren't going to have wants or needs anything like those of humans because our wants and needs are based on a whole host of things that we either can't or won't build into the design of an AGI: [LIST] [*]A blind-idiot evolved processing system that combines very sophisticated neural networking with brute-force chemical triggers. [*]Millions of years' worth of evolved instincts and stimulus-responses, most of which were hard-coded long before we achieved actual intelligence and are therefore not designed to serve the needs of thinking beings. [*]A very specific set of sensory systems, none of which an AI will share with us one-for-one, whose inputs are not presented to our conscious mind unfiltered but instead are processed through subsystems with thousands of built-in biases and pattern-processing quirks and techniques. [*]A whole meat body that requires constant maintenance and management, to which much of our brain is dedicated without any conscious thought on our part, and whose needs impact our decision-making in thousands of subtle ways we're barely consciously aware of. [*]Well over a decade of neurological training through interaction with other members of our species, shaping our goals, attitudes, beliefs and values through mechanisms we still don't fully understand. [*]A basic but powerful sense of self-preservation that's the culmination of hundreds of millions of years of our ancestors being the ones who survived, prospered and procreated to breed the next generation. [/LIST] What we get if we build a thinking being that doesn't incorporate any of these things, or which incorporates our own flawed impressions of them, is basically anyone's guess. [/QUOTE]
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