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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6609173" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Nope. I'm more discussing critique and expectations, as we will see in a moment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's great, if you're free to do so. But this is an adaptation with elements established by previous authors. The Guardians of the Galaxy by definition kind of have to move around the Galaxy, and the way they do that is in ships. So, the ships kinda have to be there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you go to the market, and buy a package of ice cream that is clearly labelled "chocolate", and you take a spoonful and think, "Gee, I'm bored of chocolate," do you critique the ice cream for not being strawberry, or do you think that maybe you should have gotten different ice cream? That's the question I'm considering here. The thing is what it is, a pretty good adaptation of the original source material. Should we expect it to be other than that? Do we critique it on the basis of what it is trying to be, or what it is, regardless of the expectations set by the genre and adaptation?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I admit that Thor 2 was not terribly exciting, whether or not we worry about that trope. I watched it on a bored late night when my wife was away, to kill time, otherwise I would not have bothered. </p><p></p><p>Part of the thing with IM3 is that reversing it is *meaningful*. It is the *villain* who bombards, faceless from above. And suddenly, it becomes (to me) a bit of foreshadowing that is far more interesting than at first glance. I'm sorry if you aren't interested in the meta-text.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not actually arguing against how you feel. You feel how you feel, and that's fine. I'm considering where the line of valid critique of the work itself comes up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6609173, member: 177"] Nope. I'm more discussing critique and expectations, as we will see in a moment. That's great, if you're free to do so. But this is an adaptation with elements established by previous authors. The Guardians of the Galaxy by definition kind of have to move around the Galaxy, and the way they do that is in ships. So, the ships kinda have to be there. If you go to the market, and buy a package of ice cream that is clearly labelled "chocolate", and you take a spoonful and think, "Gee, I'm bored of chocolate," do you critique the ice cream for not being strawberry, or do you think that maybe you should have gotten different ice cream? That's the question I'm considering here. The thing is what it is, a pretty good adaptation of the original source material. Should we expect it to be other than that? Do we critique it on the basis of what it is trying to be, or what it is, regardless of the expectations set by the genre and adaptation? Well, I admit that Thor 2 was not terribly exciting, whether or not we worry about that trope. I watched it on a bored late night when my wife was away, to kill time, otherwise I would not have bothered. Part of the thing with IM3 is that reversing it is *meaningful*. It is the *villain* who bombards, faceless from above. And suddenly, it becomes (to me) a bit of foreshadowing that is far more interesting than at first glance. I'm sorry if you aren't interested in the meta-text. I'm not actually arguing against how you feel. You feel how you feel, and that's fine. I'm considering where the line of valid critique of the work itself comes up. [/QUOTE]
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