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<blockquote data-quote="OB1" data-source="post: 7407776" data-attributes="member: 6796241"><p>This really sums up my feelings exactly. I'd argue that the lack of deep emotional feels comes from the fact that it's half a movie. If you look at say, Empire Strikes Back instead, that's how you do both a serial cliffhanger but have a complete movie unto itself. While I certainly recognize how hard it is to do that effectively, it doesn't excuse the fact that AIW made some very poor choices. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As for the Hulk, a workmate made it simple for me. Hulk is a bully who got his a** kicked and is now hiding at home behind his mom.</p><p></p><p>I'm back and forth on Star Lord. I sort of think it was set up in his reaction to Ego killing his mom (blasting Ego instantly without thought), but where that scene was earned through two movies, I'm not so sure I buy the emotional connection between Star Lord and Gamora. </p><p></p><p>Making a film is hard, making a good film is unbelievably difficult and making a great film requires immense talent, immense dedication and quite a bit of luck. I don't envy anyone having to try and write a story for 22 characters, each played by actors with egos, a Studio looking over your every move and the expectations of millions of fans on your shoulders. But the Russo brothers took it on, and while they put on a good show, they didn't knock it out of the park. And that's okay. They don't all have to be great. But don't make this film the standard. </p><p></p><p>One other thought. How great would it have been for Loki to have tricked Thanos out of the Gauntlet, went after the rest of the stones himself and used it to set himself up as supreme leader of the Universe. Instead of a brand new boring villain, we get the ultimate Loki.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OB1, post: 7407776, member: 6796241"] This really sums up my feelings exactly. I'd argue that the lack of deep emotional feels comes from the fact that it's half a movie. If you look at say, Empire Strikes Back instead, that's how you do both a serial cliffhanger but have a complete movie unto itself. While I certainly recognize how hard it is to do that effectively, it doesn't excuse the fact that AIW made some very poor choices. As for the Hulk, a workmate made it simple for me. Hulk is a bully who got his a** kicked and is now hiding at home behind his mom. I'm back and forth on Star Lord. I sort of think it was set up in his reaction to Ego killing his mom (blasting Ego instantly without thought), but where that scene was earned through two movies, I'm not so sure I buy the emotional connection between Star Lord and Gamora. Making a film is hard, making a good film is unbelievably difficult and making a great film requires immense talent, immense dedication and quite a bit of luck. I don't envy anyone having to try and write a story for 22 characters, each played by actors with egos, a Studio looking over your every move and the expectations of millions of fans on your shoulders. But the Russo brothers took it on, and while they put on a good show, they didn't knock it out of the park. And that's okay. They don't all have to be great. But don't make this film the standard. One other thought. How great would it have been for Loki to have tricked Thanos out of the Gauntlet, went after the rest of the stones himself and used it to set himself up as supreme leader of the Universe. Instead of a brand new boring villain, we get the ultimate Loki. [/QUOTE]
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