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<blockquote data-quote="Ryujin" data-source="post: 6849703" data-attributes="member: 27897"><p>And I'm providing it in the manner that a good news agency would; to cover all bases and avoid colouring the whole debate with my own bias.</p><p></p><p>"Star Trek Continues" funded at over $200K. They tend to be the go-to comparison.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did that for a very specific reason, that I hoped I had made obvious. "Most fan films" end up costing their principals tens of thousands of dollars, out of pocket. Far from being "not for profit", they are usually made at a rather large loss. A well organized indie film tries to pay its people and to operate at break even, or better. This is a better model for making a fan film, since it doesn't result in people taking out second mortgages. I didn't suggest that it was the normal cost of doing business for making fan films. I stated it's the normal cost of doing business when you're using professionals and that, even if you're only paying minimum wage or scale, the costs are significantly higher than when you're using volunteer labour.</p><p></p><p>Overreach or not, they were banking on being able to use intellectual property owned by someone else. That creates the possibility of failure, beyond the usual issues with any production. In the comments section of <a href="http://www.axanarproductions.com/are-cbs-and-paramount-shooting-themselves-in-the-foot/" target="_blank">one of the Axanar blogs</a> I posted the following (currently awaiting moderation):</p><p></p><p>"How do you advertise for less than zero dollars? Easy. Settle the suit against “Axanar” in the following way.</p><p></p><p>Allow production on “Axanar” to continue. Permit fulfillment of the existing promises to the backers, who funded the movie through Kickstarter and Indiegogo. Once that is complete bring the movie in-house, making it a CBS/Paramount property to satisfy copyright. Release it to the world via an on-demand site like Vimeo on Demand for a nominal charge, like $5.00 per rental. Twenty percent of generated profits would go to Axanar Productions, which was not slated to make profit at any rate, with the remaining 80% going to the IP holders. A similar deal could be worked out for DVD/Blu-Ray distribution.</p><p></p><p>Copyright is satisfied. The backers are satisfied. The production gets to see the light of day."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ryujin, post: 6849703, member: 27897"] And I'm providing it in the manner that a good news agency would; to cover all bases and avoid colouring the whole debate with my own bias. "Star Trek Continues" funded at over $200K. They tend to be the go-to comparison. I did that for a very specific reason, that I hoped I had made obvious. "Most fan films" end up costing their principals tens of thousands of dollars, out of pocket. Far from being "not for profit", they are usually made at a rather large loss. A well organized indie film tries to pay its people and to operate at break even, or better. This is a better model for making a fan film, since it doesn't result in people taking out second mortgages. I didn't suggest that it was the normal cost of doing business for making fan films. I stated it's the normal cost of doing business when you're using professionals and that, even if you're only paying minimum wage or scale, the costs are significantly higher than when you're using volunteer labour. Overreach or not, they were banking on being able to use intellectual property owned by someone else. That creates the possibility of failure, beyond the usual issues with any production. In the comments section of [url=http://www.axanarproductions.com/are-cbs-and-paramount-shooting-themselves-in-the-foot/]one of the Axanar blogs[/url] I posted the following (currently awaiting moderation): "How do you advertise for less than zero dollars? Easy. Settle the suit against “Axanar” in the following way. Allow production on “Axanar” to continue. Permit fulfillment of the existing promises to the backers, who funded the movie through Kickstarter and Indiegogo. Once that is complete bring the movie in-house, making it a CBS/Paramount property to satisfy copyright. Release it to the world via an on-demand site like Vimeo on Demand for a nominal charge, like $5.00 per rental. Twenty percent of generated profits would go to Axanar Productions, which was not slated to make profit at any rate, with the remaining 80% going to the IP holders. A similar deal could be worked out for DVD/Blu-Ray distribution. Copyright is satisfied. The backers are satisfied. The production gets to see the light of day." [/QUOTE]
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