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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6436828" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>I think that sort of thing is good for classes that can make use of it like Paladins. Lore bards though lack the AC and weapons Paladins can use it for and an extra 2d6 or 2d8 using a 1st level slot seems a bad deal when compared with Faerie Fire let alone bless. THose spells are going to barely do more damage than thunder wave and probably less.</p><p></p><p> Even as a Valor Bard I avoided the smite spells because you do not get them until level 10. I Took Destructive Wave and Aura of Vitality instead. If I did not take AoV I would have taken haste instead as the Valor Bard. I just think there are better options and dealing a extra handful of damage is not as good as having the rest of your party do a lot more damage with their attacks over more than one round and if they have feats like Sharpshooter or Great Weapon Master each PC will deal more damage per hit than your one shot spell effect. At level 10 just compare the smite spells to destructive wave for example.</p><p></p><p> By level 10 for example you could use a smite type spell or cast swift quiver and abuse it with the sharpshooter feat so 4 attacks per round with +10 damage per attack. That is a way better option than a single smite spell assuming you have someone else in the party to offset the -5 to hit. If you do not you may want to be that someone else.</p><p></p><p> A high damage focused build like a valor bard who wants to directly deal as much damage as they could might take some smite spells otherwise at best I seem them being used in a multiclass lore bard build (fighter 11/Bard 9 or whatever).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 6436828, member: 6716779"] I think that sort of thing is good for classes that can make use of it like Paladins. Lore bards though lack the AC and weapons Paladins can use it for and an extra 2d6 or 2d8 using a 1st level slot seems a bad deal when compared with Faerie Fire let alone bless. THose spells are going to barely do more damage than thunder wave and probably less. Even as a Valor Bard I avoided the smite spells because you do not get them until level 10. I Took Destructive Wave and Aura of Vitality instead. If I did not take AoV I would have taken haste instead as the Valor Bard. I just think there are better options and dealing a extra handful of damage is not as good as having the rest of your party do a lot more damage with their attacks over more than one round and if they have feats like Sharpshooter or Great Weapon Master each PC will deal more damage per hit than your one shot spell effect. At level 10 just compare the smite spells to destructive wave for example. By level 10 for example you could use a smite type spell or cast swift quiver and abuse it with the sharpshooter feat so 4 attacks per round with +10 damage per attack. That is a way better option than a single smite spell assuming you have someone else in the party to offset the -5 to hit. If you do not you may want to be that someone else. A high damage focused build like a valor bard who wants to directly deal as much damage as they could might take some smite spells otherwise at best I seem them being used in a multiclass lore bard build (fighter 11/Bard 9 or whatever). [/QUOTE]
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